-----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of Paul G Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 9:22 AM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: High volume WHOIS queries

----- Original Message ----- From: "Hannigan, Martin" <hannigan@verisign.com> To: "Paul G" <paul@rusko.us>; <nanog@merit.edu> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 9:17 AM Subject: RE: High volume WHOIS queries

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-----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of Paul G Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 5:03 AM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: High volume WHOIS queries

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point - they're trying to restrict the practicality of attempting to harvest the data and an open to the public whois server with no access restrictions would defeat that.

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I don't know that this is the case, I suspect it's resource management. If the database is getting slaughtered by applications on uncontrolled auto pilot, it's unusable for the rest of us.

well, the OP quoted a portion of the aup that requires bulk whois data recipients to take measures to prevent harvesting, so i presume that arin does care about that and, in fact, that consideration is likely the reason they declined to permit the OP to run *his own* whoisd off of his *local* copy of the data.

The AUP also says for "internet operational or research purposes only." Maybe they don't consider the use to fit in the defintion? There's an easier fix, IMO. Run a two stage query, 50 and 50, and then append the second 50 to the bottom of the first. -M< -M<