I don't understand why there's all these flame wars and pissing contests or people unhappy with the noise I've added to this mailing list... all this debate about what is or isn't on topic, Oy Vey! You'd think this list existed for years before I learned about it and decided to spew my wisdom or something. We have a saying for that: nucking few guy nas ho lue. It means: FNG has no clue. -- My blog: http://blogs.securiteam.com/?author=6 "The third principle of sentient life is the capacity for self-sacrifice --- the conscious ability to override evolution and self-preservation for a cause, a friend, a loved one." -- Draal, "A Voice in the Wilderness", Babylon 5. _________________________________________________________________ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement