Re: ANS to CIX Interconnection
One of the new networks originates in the former Soviet Union, and traffic between US Government sponsored networks and the former Soviet Union is prohibited at this time. Therefore accordingly, the ANSNET will not re-distribute or announce any routes to this network.
Well, the obvious question is what does this have to do with anything? The whole point of the CIX is to not have to screw around with outdated government policy. So, either ANS CO+RE isn't REALLY the commericial separate entity it claims to be or the above statement makes no sense and should be retracted. Which is it? ---rick
From: rick@uunet.uu.net (Rick Adams) To: mak@merit.edu, regional-techs@merit.edu
One of the new networks originates in the former Soviet Union, and traffic between US Government sponsored networks and the former Soviet Union is prohibited at this time. Therefore accordingly, the ANSNET will not re-distribute or announce any routes to this network.
Well, the obvious question is what does this have to do with anything? The whole point of the CIX is to not have to screw around with outdated government policy.
Rick, It is our understanding that Merit and ANS are prohibited from allowing any traffic to flow between the US and networks in the xSU. This is the law, not a policy however outdated. This is an unfortunate situation in my view, because a number of regionals have expressed interested in communicating with people and systems in Russia and other xSU countries. But until we hear that laws or their interpretation have been changed we will not be passing any traffic to or from this network.
So, either ANS CO+RE isn't REALLY the commericial separate entity it claims to be or the above statement makes no sense and should be retracted.
Which is it?
---rick
Again the xSU network announcement will not be passed to ANS CO+RE customers either so I guess this doesn't have to do with anything either.... Mark
Neither I nor my attorneys are aware of any such law. Please quote the specific law or retract your claim. We bothered to reseach the issue. Did you?
From: rick@uunet.uu.net (Rick Adams) To: mak@merit.edu CC: rick@uunet.UU.NET, regional-techs@merit.edu
Neither I nor my attorneys are aware of any such law.
Please quote the specific law or retract your claim.
We bothered to reseach the issue. Did you?
Rick, We are looking into it, but feel that we need explicit confirmation by an attorney or government official before we can allow this traffic. NSF has explicitly instructed us not to allow traffic between some xSU countries and federally-sponsored networks. Other types of networks may actually be allowed as you say but we are taking the conservative approach. Mark
So what you're saying then is that you are not an independant entity and are require to follow federal policy. NSF has a policy against it. that has nothing to do with legality. NSF also has a policy against carrying commercial traffic? Did you adopt that? You are not being conservative. You're way into paranoid. So, to sum up, ANS is discriminating against users of a network because of their natural origin and there is no basis in law to support this position. Pretty xenophobic for a group that claims to be an international provider.
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