From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu [mailto:Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu] Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 1:34 PM

On Mon, 20 Nov 2000 13:16:00 PST, Roeland Meyer <rmeyer@mhsc.com> said:

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We have enough problems from DOS attacks originating from the script kiddies, we don't need DOS attacks from our upstreams (uncontracted/unrequested port filtering).

The two are inversely related.

How? Denial of service because of script-kiddie activity is indistinguishable from denial of service because the transit provider is arbitrarily blocking those ports, or has firewalled my systems "for my own good", without my permission. DoS is DoS.