--- morrowc.lists@gmail.com wrote: From: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com> On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 2:02 PM, William Allen Simpson <william.allen.simpson@gmail.com> wrote:

:: ...in addition to everything else "What security protocols :: are folks using to protect SONET/SDH? At what speeds?"

: Correct.

: But the answer appears to be: none. Not Google. Not any : public N/ISP.

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would they say if they had?

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Yes, especially in light of the current news regarding internet privacy. Could you imagine the advertising they'd be able to do to prospective customers?

--- sam@wwcandt.com wrote: The sticky problem remains for any communications carrier, we are looking for a technical solution to a legal problem. I believe that if you encrypted your links sufficiently that it was impossible to siphon the wanted data from your upstream the response would be for the tapping to move down into your data center before the crypto. With CALEA requirements and the Patriot Act they could easily compel you to give them a span port prior to the crypto. Regardless of how well built our networks are internally and externally we still must obey a court order. ------------------------------------------------------------------ I'm speaking about blocking non-court ordered (in whatever country the circuits cross) sniffing of traffic in the middle by anyone. There is no legal problem there. They do not follow the laws in this country, or in others, and we need to protect ourselves. scott