________________________________________________________________________ Please excuse this if you feel you are receiving a hugely off-topic post. I have been given the onerous task of selling a small tier1 network. This network would be ideal for anyone wishing to get into the world of peering by advancing their efforts through several years already completed work. Please reply to me directly, off list, if you are interested, serious, and would like more information. No further posts will be made regarding this. Again, forgive the intrusion to the forum, and thank you. Curt Rask ________________________________________________________________________
What the heck is a "small tier 1 network"? Sounds a lot like "military intelligence" or "jumbo shrimp". R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634
Must be a net with fiber envy... On Feb 19, 2001 Kevin Oberman reported:
What the heck is a "small tier 1 network"? Sounds a lot like "military intelligence" or "jumbo shrimp".
R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634
-- Rich Sena - ras@thick.net ThickNET Consulting "On the way to understanding; you understand, and forget."
On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Kevin Oberman wrote:
What the heck is a "small tier 1 network"? Sounds a lot like "military intelligence" or "jumbo shrimp".
Remember...I'm Tier-1 because I say I am. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jon Lewis *jlewis@lewis.org*| I route System Administrator | therefore you are Atlantic Net | _________ http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp for PGP public key_________
Its a tier one but using a 64 kbps backbone Roy Engehausen jlewis@lewis.org wrote:
On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Kevin Oberman wrote:
What the heck is a "small tier 1 network"? Sounds a lot like "military intelligence" or "jumbo shrimp".
Remember...I'm Tier-1 because I say I am.
-- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jon Lewis *jlewis@lewis.org*| I route System Administrator | therefore you are Atlantic Net | _________ http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp for PGP public key_________
On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Roy wrote:
Its a tier one but using a 64 kbps backbone
somene still trying to sell net99? I thought it was sold long ago to AGIS.
Roy Engehausen
jlewis@lewis.org wrote:
On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Kevin Oberman wrote:
What the heck is a "small tier 1 network"? Sounds a lot like "military intelligence" or "jumbo shrimp".
Remember...I'm Tier-1 because I say I am.
-- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jon Lewis *jlewis@lewis.org*| I route System Administrator | therefore you are Atlantic Net | _________ http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp for PGP public key_________
Last time I heard, Stroup was accusing me of getting him kicked off nanog. Did he do something constructive prior to booby-trapping the last network he worked for? --- John Fraizer EnterZone, Inc On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Alex Rubenstein wrote:
Its a tier one but using a 64 kbps backbone
somene still trying to sell net99? I thought it was sold long ago to AGIS.
I thought Stroup built that thing with MFS 10 Meg HLI's...
On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Curt Rask wrote:
Please excuse this if you feel you are receiving a hugely off-topic post. I have been given the onerous task of selling a small tier1
<cut> So NetRail ran out of cash? ;-) Guess I should not wait for the money from selling NetRail. I have received calls from 3 companies who wanted to buy them, but most don't like the fact that I still have not received a dime from the sale. -Nathan
Nathan Stratton wrote:
So NetRail ran out of cash? ;-)
I dunno, but they did just get out of the DSL business... -- Steve Sobol, BOFH, President 888.480.4NET 866.DSL.EXPRESS 216.619.2NET North Shore Technologies Corporation http://NorthShoreTechnologies.net JustTheNet/JustTheNet EXPRESS DSL (ISP Services) http://JustThe.net mailto:sjsobol@NorthShoreTechnologies.net Proud resident of Cleveland, OH
So Nathan, How's the Fire fighting business these days? Hope all is going well for ya! Maybe we'll see each other in the keys sometime soon. Enjoy life, its too short to hold grudges forever.......... Sincerely, Scott P.S. Sorry to everyone else for the OT posting of a postal ex-engineer. Enjoy the rest of your stay in Atlanta!
-----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of Nathan Stratton Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 11:56 AM To: Curt Rask Cc: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: Network for Sale
On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Curt Rask wrote:
Please excuse this if you feel you are receiving a hugely off-topic post. I have been given the onerous task of selling a small tier1
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So NetRail ran out of cash? ;-) Guess I should not wait for the money from selling NetRail. I have received calls from 3 companies who wanted to buy them, but most don't like the fact that I still have not received a dime from the sale.
-Nathan
On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Scott Patterson wrote:
So Nathan,
How's the Fire fighting business these days? Hope all is going well for ya! Maybe we'll see each other in the keys sometime soon. Enjoy life, its too short to hold grudges forever..........
Hehe, I only do that as a volunteer and as far as grudges, you put 4 years of your life into a company and have VCs take it and leave you with out a cent. I am over netrail, I just thought it was a cute reply to a small tier one provider. ;-) P.S. I am not a big fan of the keys, anywhere else?
<> Nathan Stratton CTO, Exario Networks, Inc. nathan@robotics.net nathan@exario.net http://www.robotics.net http://www.exario.net
I would suspect Savvis, perhaps, or Epoch? Curt is certainly not involved with NetRail in any way. - Daniel Golding On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Nathan Stratton wrote:
On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Curt Rask wrote:
Please excuse this if you feel you are receiving a hugely off-topic post. I have been given the onerous task of selling a small tier1
<cut>
So NetRail ran out of cash? ;-) Guess I should not wait for the money from selling NetRail. I have received calls from 3 companies who wanted to buy them, but most don't like the fact that I still have not received a dime from the sale.
-Nathan
Savvis -- Tier 1? When? Where? How? On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Daniel L. Golding wrote:
I would suspect Savvis, perhaps, or Epoch? Curt is certainly not involved with NetRail in any way.
- Daniel Golding
On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Nathan Stratton wrote:
On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Curt Rask wrote:
Please excuse this if you feel you are receiving a hugely off-topic post. I have been given the onerous task of selling a small tier1
<cut>
So NetRail ran out of cash? ;-) Guess I should not wait for the money from selling NetRail. I have received calls from 3 companies who wanted to buy them, but most don't like the fact that I still have not received a dime from the sale.
-Nathan
--- John Fraizer EnterZone, Inc
I'm not saying that they are, but many folks claim to be, who are not, and their current difficulties are rather prominant. I now believe the provider Curt was talking about to be Epoch, BTW. Daniel Golding NetRail,Inc. "Better to light a candle than to curse the darkness" On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, John Fraizer wrote:
Savvis -- Tier 1?
When? Where? How?
On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Daniel L. Golding wrote:
I would suspect Savvis, perhaps, or Epoch? Curt is certainly not involved with NetRail in any way.
- Daniel Golding
On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Nathan Stratton wrote:
On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Curt Rask wrote:
Please excuse this if you feel you are receiving a hugely off-topic post. I have been given the onerous task of selling a small tier1
<cut>
So NetRail ran out of cash? ;-) Guess I should not wait for the money from selling NetRail. I have received calls from 3 companies who wanted to buy them, but most don't like the fact that I still have not received a dime from the sale.
-Nathan
--- John Fraizer EnterZone, Inc
the only reason that we ain't is that we still want to buy transit from Sprint. CW, and UUNet. Everything else we peer......Buying transit allows me to call up on the phone and start screaming at them...... :-) On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, John Fraizer wrote:
Savvis -- Tier 1?
When? Where? How?
On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Daniel L. Golding wrote:
I would suspect Savvis, perhaps, or Epoch? Curt is certainly not involved with NetRail in any way.
- Daniel Golding
On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Nathan Stratton wrote:
On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Curt Rask wrote:
Please excuse this if you feel you are receiving a hugely off-topic post. I have been given the onerous task of selling a small tier1
<cut>
So NetRail ran out of cash? ;-) Guess I should not wait for the money from selling NetRail. I have received calls from 3 companies who wanted to buy them, but most don't like the fact that I still have not received a dime from the sale.
-Nathan
--- John Fraizer EnterZone, Inc
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