gordon, for someone who claims to be a reporter, you are sometimes amazing. Buying leased circuit bandwidth from Worldcom or bozo the clown does not mean that that they are buying internet peering. You have no facts to prove anything you say, yet you content that people who do have facts are misrepresenting the truth. take a break, jerry
Jerry, the most important paragraph followed a few lines later: "Many of the operators of the private peering interconnections are competitors of the Company. Currently, ***the Company does not pay a fee for many of these interconnections,*** and if these organizations were to begin to charge the Company for utilizing these interconnections, or, in the cases where the ***Company currently pays a fee,*** to increase the pricing associated with utilizing these networks, the Company may be required to identify alternative methods through which it can distribute its customers' content." Exodus has certainly said or implied that they had universal no cost interconnection? No? Or are we going on nuances here like the interconnections are peering that is being paid for instead of transit and so they really don't count??? The worldcom statement could be leased lines for their own backbone. True. but do you think that they get no cost peering from UUNET? i honestly don't know the answer. still I can't immagine generous john sidgemore interconnecting them for free. what the paragraph that I cited again above says is that they pay for multiple peering interconnections..... or at least they sure paid last january. does anyone think free peering is getting easier to get? ergo its a safe assumption that they pay now.....becuase if they somehow bucked the trend how could they miss out on the pr value of saying so?
gordon,
for someone who claims to be a reporter, you are sometimes amazing. Buying leased circuit bandwidth from Worldcom or bozo the clown does not mean that that they are buying internet peering. You have no facts to prove anything you say, yet you content that people who do have facts are misrepresenting the truth.
take a break, jerry
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As I stated before, please read the current 10Q. I believe I made it clear that Exodus has purchased transit in the past. I also made it very clear that it really isn't the issue. I *could* purchase transit. The question is will I? The "other" folks *could* purchase transit, but will they? Even if I did have transit, *would* I use it to allow BBN to disconnect? Rob
Jerry, the most important paragraph followed a few lines later:
"Many of the operators of the private peering interconnections are competitors of the Company. Currently, ***the Company does not pay a fee for many of these interconnections,*** and if these organizations were to begin to charge the Company for utilizing these interconnections, or, in the cases where the ***Company currently pays a fee,*** to increase the pricing associated with utilizing these networks, the Company may be required to identify alternative methods through which it can distribute its customers' content."
Exodus has certainly said or implied that they had universal no cost interconnection? No? Or are we going on nuances here like the interconnections are peering that is being paid for instead of transit and so they really don't count???
The worldcom statement could be leased lines for their own backbone. True. but do you think that they get no cost peering from UUNET? i honestly don't know the answer. still I can't immagine generous john sidgemore interconnecting them for free.
what the paragraph that I cited again above says is that they pay for multiple peering interconnections..... or at least they sure paid last january. does anyone think free peering is getting easier to get? ergo its a safe assumption that they pay now.....becuase if they somehow bucked the trend how could they miss out on the pr value of saying so?
gordon,
for someone who claims to be a reporter, you are sometimes amazing. Buying leased circuit bandwidth from Worldcom or bozo the clown does not mean that that they are buying internet peering. You have no facts to prove anything you say, yet you content that people who do have facts are misrepresenting the truth.
take a break, jerry
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Jerry, the most important...
much blather snipped %< Gordon, I just wonder if there is anyone else out there that enjoys your read as much as you?} doh! If your traffic is largely based on "client" side applications then guess what, your gonna have a lot of in-bound traffic. This whining is tantamount to AT&T whining about MCI clients calling their moms who have AT&T long distance! If your business model doesn't account for such anomalies, what are ya gonna do? ask mom for a charge on her incoming calls?) -pete Peter E. Giza Black Pearl Software & Consulting Inc. www.blackpearl.net 603.883.9774
If your traffic is largely based on "client" side applications then guess what, your gonna have a lot of in-bound traffic. This whining is tantamount to AT&T whining about MCI clients calling their moms who have AT&T long distance! If your business
duh! this is "settlement" as Jeremiah Kristal so kindly reminded me. I guess the idea of settlement seemed so bizarre I dismissed it. (if I could only hide behind the satire it was thought to be,=)
model doesn't account for such anomalies, what are ya gonna do? ask mom for a charge on her incoming calls?)
The point _was_ that if your highly dependent on dialup users who sit in front of a browser then your gonna get thwacked. I'll shutup now. -pete
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