Re: the whole world disappeared?
All AT&T InterSpan North American frame services are down. Our 200 site WAN just went dark. No ETA for repair.
I'm starting to feel jinxed. Two months ago Worldcom was in the office explaining how wonderful their network was, a few days later they lost most of their west coast connectivity. Last month SPRINT was in the office explaining how wonderful their network was, that weekend the Sprint network suffers software upgrade meltdown. This afternoon AT&T was in the office explaining how wonderful their network was, and tonight the AT&T network falls over. I think the only thing saving MCI is their salesperson hasn't been able to tell me how wonderful their network is. Anyone else care to try their luck and schedule an appointment to tell me how wonderfull their network is :-) To keep Randy from yelling at me, I am working on a protocol for reporting alerting users to network and other failures. I've decided no one will implement management guidelines, so lets write some software. And someday you may even be able to configure your Cisco, Ascend, etc to grok the protocol. I think it would be a cool addition to lucky IOS release 13. -- Sean Donelan, Data Research Associates, Inc, St. Louis, MO Affiliation given for identification not representation
According to Sean Donelan:
All AT&T InterSpan North American frame services are down. Our 200 site WAN just went dark. No ETA for repair.
I'm starting to feel jinxed.
This afternoon AT&T was in the office explaining how wonderful their network was, and tonight the AT&T network falls over.
We're in trouble - AT&T was also at my office yesterday - same sales pitch I believe :-) It's been close to 12 hours, and we are still not seeing any routers on the AT&T connected frame services - any word on an ETA? --curtis Tue Apr 14 04:31:49 EDT 1998 -- Curtis Generous generous@uucom.com Phone: (703) 461-1350 UUcom Inc., Suite 250, 4875 Eisenhower Avenue, Alexandria, VA 22304-0797
On Tue, Apr 14, 1998 at 04:33:58AM -0400, Curtis Generous wrote:
According to Sean Donelan:
All AT&T InterSpan North American frame services are down. Our 200 site WAN just went dark. No ETA for repair.
I'm starting to feel jinxed.
This afternoon AT&T was in the office explaining how wonderful their network was, and tonight the AT&T network falls over.
We're in trouble - AT&T was also at my office yesterday - same sales pitch I believe :-)
It's been close to 12 hours, and we are still not seeing any routers on the AT&T connected frame services - any word on an ETA?
--curtis Tue Apr 14 04:31:49 EDT 1998
We currently have no pager service from Pagemart - same deal, its AT&T frame relay related. This is going on 24 hours now, and Pagemart has no restoral estimate. For us this is EXTREMELY serious, as that is our NOC emergency alert system; we alert via automated alpha page to selected people when something breaks. For now we'll live, but this means that things will get VERY dicey if we run into any significant trouble nad need to call people in or get ahold of them. Thank GOD that we don't have any AT&T frame relay service. Tue Apr 14 11:04:07 CDT 1998 -- -- Karl Denninger (karl@MCS.Net)| MCSNet - Serving Chicagoland and Wisconsin http://www.mcs.net/ | T1's from $600 monthly / All Lines K56Flex/DOV | NEW! Corporate ISDN Prices dropped by up to 50%! Voice: [+1 312 803-MCS1 x219]| EXCLUSIVE NEW FEATURE ON ALL PERSONAL ACCOUNTS Fax: [+1 312 803-4929] | *SPAMBLOCK* Technology now included at no cost
On Tue, 14 Apr 1998, Karl Denninger wrote: # We currently have no pager service from Pagemart We do, and they're in the process of re-routing calls onto Worldcom. I sympathize with Pagemart's troubles a little, but their customer service gets a low rating for how they're handling this. We're still using the pagers, against the time when Pagemart is stable, but we've got a follow-up procedure in front of our NOC in case there's no reply to pages. Bob -- Verio Texas - The National Internet of Texas - http://www.sig.net e-mail: bei@sig.net fax: +1 (512) 306-0702 voice: +1 (512) 306-0700
On Tue, Apr 14, 1998 at 11:24:43AM -0500, Bob Izenberg put this into my mailbox:
I sympathize with Pagemart's troubles a little, but their customer service gets a low rating for how they're handling this. We're still using the pagers, against the time when Pagemart is stable, but we've got a follow-up procedure in front of our NOC in case there's no reply to pages.
Well, it's made the news, at least: http://www.wired.com/news/news/technology/story/11648.html http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,21061,00.html?st.ne.fd.mdh -dalvenjah -- Dalvenjah FoxFire (aka Sven Nielsen) The name's Bean....Mr. Bean. Founder, the DALnet IRC Network e-mail: dalvenjah@dal.net WWW: http://www.dal.net/~dalvenjah/ whois: SN90 Try DALnet! http://www.dal.net/
On 14-Apr-98 Karl Denninger wrote:
We currently have no pager service from Pagemart - same deal, its AT&T frame relay related.
This is going on 24 hours now, and Pagemart has no restoral estimate.
For us this is EXTREMELY serious, as that is our NOC emergency alert system; we alert via automated alpha page to selected people when something breaks. For now we'll live, but this means that things will get VERY dicey if we run into any significant trouble nad need to call people in or get ahold of them.
Thank GOD that we don't have any AT&T frame relay service.
Tue Apr 14 11:04:07 CDT 1998
This is why my company uses qpage to deliver alpha pages to our NOC staff. Before using qpage, email was the method used to deliver the pages. Now we use qpage to deliver them. In the case of the qpage server taking a nose-dive, we attempt to deliver via email. In the case of both services being unavailable someone is on hand to contact NOC staff the old fashioned method :) I suggest looing at the qpage package available at ftp.it.mtu.edu:/pub/QuickPage Regards, Jeff ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Wheat jeff@cetlink.net Senior Engineer CETLink.Net Inc. South Carolina +1.803.327.2754 -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
On Tue, 14 Apr 1998, Sean Donelan wrote:
I'm starting to feel jinxed.
Two months ago Worldcom was in the office explaining how wonderful their network was, a few days later they lost most of their west coast connectivity.
Last month SPRINT was in the office explaining how wonderful their network was, that weekend the Sprint network suffers software upgrade meltdown.
This afternoon AT&T was in the office explaining how wonderful their network was, and tonight the AT&T network falls over.
I think the only thing saving MCI is their salesperson hasn't been able to tell me how wonderful their network is.
Anyone else care to try their luck and schedule an appointment to tell me how wonderfull their network is :-)
When the local nuns show up to tell you how wonderful their new abbey is... Run.
participants (9)
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Adam Rothschild
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Bob Izenberg
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Curtis Generous
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Dalvenjah FoxFire
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Jeff Wheat
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Karl Denninger
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Marc Hurst
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Scott Weeks
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Sean Donelan