suggestions? hylafax/IXO/ITAP addressable pager companies in UK
i've got a server in London, UK that from time to time needs some attention. i've been using hylafax here in canada to send off alpha and/or numeric messages using a dial-up into the pager company and the IXO or ITAP protocols. works quite nicely. in any case, i would like to do the same thing for the technicians in London, however, they aren't clue'd enough to ask their pager company the right questions and/or the pager companies i've called were not clue'd enough to understand what i was asking. any recommendations for direct-access pagers and/or cellphones in the UK? -- [ Jim Mercer jim@reptiles.org +1 416 410-5633 ] [ Reptilian Research -- Longer Life through Colder Blood ] [ Don't be fooled by cheap Finnish imitations; BSD is the One True Code. ]
On Tue, Jul 18, 2000 at 02:18:57PM -0400, Jim Mercer wrote:
in any case, i would like to do the same thing for the technicians in London, however, they aren't clue'd enough to ask their pager company the right questions and/or the pager companies i've called were not clue'd enough to understand what i was asking.
Hutchinson Telecom have a TAP gateway - if you ask the operator, they can usually help. The Hutchinson Telecom gateway could also send SMS messages to Orange, and may be able to send text messages to any UK mobile.
any recommendations for direct-access pagers and/or cellphones in the UK?
or www.genie.co.uk will give you an e-mail address for your cellphone or pager, although there can be some lag involved. -- John Payne http://www.sackheads.org/jpayne/ john@sackheads.org http://www.sackheads.org/uce/ Fax: +44 870 0547954 340% tax? http://www.boycott-the-pumps.com/
For a network provider, I would postulate that "e-mail to pager gateway service" is equivalent to "no service". Or do you plan on bringing on having someone manually set up a link between you and the paging company to deliver the "network connectivity is hosed" pages. TAP (or other out-of-band) delivery method is currently (near as I can tell) best-practice for sending alpha pages CONCERNING the network. :) In that vein, I would recommend qpage (www.qpage.org), which -- although largely unsupported [1], works exceptionally well. D [1] Retired Programmer Syndrome. Tom doesn't make time for feature requests these days, its pretty much "on your own", but luckily, it works pretty damn well as it stands. At 1:21 PM -0700 7/18/00, John Payne wrote:
On Tue, Jul 18, 2000 at 02:18:57PM -0400, Jim Mercer wrote:
in any case, i would like to do the same thing for the technicians in London, however, they aren't clue'd enough to ask their pager company the right questions and/or the pager companies i've called were not clue'd enough to understand what i was asking.
Hutchinson Telecom have a TAP gateway - if you ask the operator, they can usually help. The Hutchinson Telecom gateway could also send SMS messages to Orange, and may be able to send text messages to any UK mobile.
any recommendations for direct-access pagers and/or cellphones in the UK?
or www.genie.co.uk will give you an e-mail address for your cellphone or pager, although there can be some lag involved.
-- John Payne http://www.sackheads.org/jpayne/ john@sackheads.org http://www.sackheads.org/uce/ Fax: +44 870 0547954 340% tax? http://www.boycott-the-pumps.com/
On Tue, Jul 18, 2000 at 01:33:05PM -0700, Derek J. Balling wrote:
For a network provider, I would postulate that "e-mail to pager gateway service" is equivalent to "no service".
Or do you plan on bringing on having someone manually set up a link between you and the paging company to deliver the "network connectivity is hosed" pages.
The question was about a downed server. I assumed that there was some monitoring offsite that wants paging.
TAP (or other out-of-band) delivery method is currently (near as I can tell) best-practice for sending alpha pages CONCERNING the network. :)
In that vein, I would recommend qpage (www.qpage.org), which -- although largely unsupported [1], works exceptionally well.
Agreed - I was using qpage to hit Hutchinson pagers. -- John Payne http://www.sackheads.org/jpayne/ john@sackheads.org http://www.sackheads.org/uce/ Fax: +44 870 0547954 340% tax? http://www.boycott-the-pumps.com/
On Tue, Jul 18, 2000 at 01:33:05PM -0700, Derek J. Balling wrote:
For a network provider, I would postulate that "e-mail to pager gateway service" is equivalent to "no service".
Or do you plan on bringing on having someone manually set up a link between you and the paging company to deliver the "network connectivity is hosed" pages.
i have a unix box in the UK, which will have a normal POTS line and a modem for hylafax. short of the POTS line being out of service, or the unix box hosing itself, it should be able to do a variety of diagnostics (not all connectivity related) and issue pages to the appropriate individuals. using ITAP or IXO also allows me to have a certain level of control on the formatting of the messages. some of these email->pager/cellphone facilities out there do not have wonderful presentation.
TAP (or other out-of-band) delivery method is currently (near as I can tell) best-practice for sending alpha pages CONCERNING the network. :)
yep, that be my choice.
In that vein, I would recommend qpage (www.qpage.org), which -- although largely unsupported [1], works exceptionally well.
i'm quite content with hylafax, as from time to time i need to send or receive a fax in a hurry, and don't want to figure out where the local printers are and then find the fax machine, etc, etc, etc. -- [ Jim Mercer jim@reptiles.org +1 416 410-5633 ] [ Reptilian Research -- Longer Life through Colder Blood ] [ Don't be fooled by cheap Finnish imitations; BSD is the One True Code. ]
in any case, i would like to do the same thing for the technicians in London, however, they aren't clue'd enough to ask their pager company the right questions and/or the pager companies i've called were not clue'd enough to understand what i was asking.
any recommendations for direct-access pagers and/or cellphones in the UK?
We use BT pagers and BT (Cellnet) cellphones. There is a IXO/TAP gateway for both the pagers and also SMS to the cellphones, which we use extensively. Simon -- Simon Lockhart | Tel: +44 (0)1737 839676 Internet Engineering Manager | Fax: +44 (0)1737 839516 BBC Internet Services | Email: Simon.Lockhart@bbc.co.uk Kingswood Warren,Tadworth,Surrey,UK | URL: http://support.bbc.co.uk/
i've got a server in London, UK that from time to time needs some attention.
i've been using hylafax here in canada to send off alpha and/or numeric messages using a dial-up into the pager company and the IXO or ITAP protocols.
works quite nicely.
in any case, i would like to do the same thing for the technicians in London, however, they aren't clue'd enough to ask their pager company the right questions and/or the pager companies i've called were not clue'd enough to understand what i was asking.
any recommendations for direct-access pagers and/or cellphones in the UK?
Hutchison Paging [part of Orange] are able to do this with TAP - we use sendpage to send messages. http://www.orange.co.uk/ Regards, Neil.
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