Chris Parker wrote:

At 01:05 PM 5/9/2002 -0400, Daniel Golding wrote:

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You can publicly denounce them on a forum like this, which has doubtful effect.

It informs other networks of the actions taken by said carrier. Od carrier. Other networks may in turn change *their* business decisions based on that information.

Right! With the (mostly) unregulated nature of the internet as it stands right now, sometimes this is the only recourse we have when a provider does something stupid. Hopefully it'll cause said provider to wake up and smell the roses, but with C&W I doubt it. They're too egotistical to cave in to public pressure.

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Additionally, punishing folks for enforcing rational peering requirements is counterproductive.

What's so rational about asking for 5000 routes?

Rational is a pretty subjective concept. :) Overly restrictive covenants wrt housing have been struck down in the past. One could make an analogy to overly restrive peering agreements if one wanted to go down that particular rat hole...

I actually hope it happens, real soon.

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I guess the best thing you can do is not take peering matters personally, and to remember that peering decisions are business decisions, and they by personalizing them, it creates unnecessary animosity.

How can I not take it personally when this person's business decision directly and immediately affected mine? Not to mention my quality of life, which is still recovering. Dean _____________________________________________ Free email with personality! Over 200 domains! http://www.MyOwnEmail.com