If it gets some of them to put up a firewall then it's not a total loss.

-----Original Message----- From: Gary E. Miller [mailto:gem@rellim.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 9:56 PM To: Christian Kuhtz Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: SP's & network security issues (partII)

Yo Christian!

Singnet, in Singapore, scanned all their direct connect customers for BO and some other things 2 years ago. The local newspapers picked it up front page for days. They were racked over the coals for "invasion of privacy". Very bad PR to scan your customers without prior informed consent. Even then some will get bent.

RGDS GARY -------------------------------------------------------------- ------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 20340 Empire Blvd, Suite E-3, Bend, OR 97701 gem@rellim.com Tel:+1(541)382-8588 Fax: +1(541)382-8676

On Thu, 9 Aug 2001, Christian Kuhtz wrote:

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Do you guys scan your customers? If so, what for? OS scans? Specific threats? Infections? How do you handle this in your AUP? Have you had problems with it? What sort of problems have you had and how did you handle them?