IPv6 Space Management. Tracking, not Allocating
There's been lots of discussion on how we should allocate space to various bits of the network. What I haven't yet seen is how people are tracking these allocations. Is everyone using one of the two or three commercial applications or some OSS solution or a few large(ish) text files? Anyone have any recommendations or feedback? Thanks! --chip -- Just my $.02, your mileage may vary, batteries not included, etc....
Darn it, I thought IPv6 managed all that kind of stuff automatically ? You mean I still have to do some work? ;-) -- Leigh -----Original Message----- From: chip [mailto:chip.gwyn@gmail.com] Sent: 17 November 2010 17:23 To: nanog Subject: IPv6 Space Management. Tracking, not Allocating There's been lots of discussion on how we should allocate space to various bits of the network. What I haven't yet seen is how people are tracking these allocations. Is everyone using one of the two or three commercial applications or some OSS solution or a few large(ish) text files? Anyone have any recommendations or feedback? Thanks! --chip -- Just my $.02, your mileage may vary, batteries not included, etc....
I want to add couple of more questions to this discussion if it's ok with Chip. Are you all trying to get PI address space or PA is workable too. How are you planning to do multihoming with IPv6? Thanks Shahid On Wednesday, November 17, 2010, Leigh Porter <leigh.porter@ukbroadband.com> wrote:
Darn it, I thought IPv6 managed all that kind of stuff automatically ?
You mean I still have to do some work?
;-)
-- Leigh
-----Original Message----- From: chip [mailto:chip.gwyn@gmail.com] Sent: 17 November 2010 17:23 To: nanog Subject: IPv6 Space Management. Tracking, not Allocating
There's been lots of discussion on how we should allocate space to various bits of the network. What I haven't yet seen is how people are tracking these allocations. Is everyone using one of the two or three commercial applications or some OSS solution or a few large(ish) text files? Anyone have any recommendations or feedback?
Thanks!
--chip
-- Just my $.02, your mileage may vary, batteries not included, etc....
I guess let me be a bit more specific. I'm an ISP, I want to track allocations to customers across pops across the globe. --chip On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Shahid Shafi <sshafi@gmail.com> wrote:
I want to add couple of more questions to this discussion if it's ok with Chip.
Are you all trying to get PI address space or PA is workable too. How are you planning to do multihoming with IPv6?
Thanks Shahid
On Wednesday, November 17, 2010, Leigh Porter <leigh.porter@ukbroadband.com> wrote:
Darn it, I thought IPv6 managed all that kind of stuff automatically ?
You mean I still have to do some work?
;-)
-- Leigh
-----Original Message----- From: chip [mailto:chip.gwyn@gmail.com] Sent: 17 November 2010 17:23 To: nanog Subject: IPv6 Space Management. Tracking, not Allocating
There's been lots of discussion on how we should allocate space to various bits of the network. What I haven't yet seen is how people are tracking these allocations. Is everyone using one of the two or three commercial applications or some OSS solution or a few large(ish) text files? Anyone have any recommendations or feedback?
Thanks!
--chip
-- Just my $.02, your mileage may vary, batteries not included, etc....
-- Just my $.02, your mileage may vary, batteries not included, etc....
IPPlan does this fairly well for ipv4 space, and they have recently added ipv6. -g On Nov 17, 2010, at 12:22 PM, chip wrote:
There's been lots of discussion on how we should allocate space to various bits of the network. What I haven't yet seen is how people are tracking these allocations. Is everyone using one of the two or three commercial applications or some OSS solution or a few large(ish) text files? Anyone have any recommendations or feedback?
Thanks!
--chip
-- Just my $.02, your mileage may vary, batteries not included, etc....
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On 17/11/2010 18:30, Greg Whynott wrote:
IPPlan does this fairly well for ipv4 space, and they have recently added ipv6.
Good to hear they've added ipv6 support. Here's the old IPTrack FAQ entry for IPv6 support. It seems to have been updated quite recently. -- Q: I want feature X implemented and I want it NOW!/I want IPv6 support added A: My time is limited and as I am the only developer actively working on IPplan, only features that are of use to me or are interesting to code up will get added quickly. Other requests will probably get added to the TODO but will receive no attention. One feature request that comes up from time to time is IPv6. Adding IPv6 support will require major effort but has such a limited audience. Ironically the only people that ever requested IPv6 support are either from Telcos, ISP’s or government departments, yet they are never interested in contributing resources! I deam them parasites of the Open Source world - leaching off the good will and effort of the Open Source community, yet give nothing in return. -- Nick
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 12:41, Nick Hilliard <nick@foobar.org> wrote:
On 17/11/2010 18:30, Greg Whynott wrote:
IPPlan does this fairly well for ipv4 space, and they have recently added ipv6.
Good to hear they've added ipv6 support. Here's the old IPTrack FAQ entry for IPv6 support. It seems to have been updated quite recently.
-- Q: I want feature X implemented and I want it NOW!/I want IPv6 support added
A: My time is limited and as I am the only developer actively working on IPplan, only features that are of use to me or are interesting to code up will get added quickly. Other requests will probably get added to the TODO but will receive no attention. One feature request that comes up from time to time is IPv6. Adding IPv6 support will require major effort but has such a limited audience. Ironically the only people that ever requested IPv6 support are either from Telcos, ISP’s or government departments, yet they are never interested in contributing resources! I deam them parasites of the Open Source world - leaching off the good will and effort of the Open Source community, yet give nothing in return.
I had replied to Chip directly but will post it out here now as well. If you go with IPplan then you want to get the latest from CVS/SVN as there have been some patches applied that fix some bits with IPv6 free-space searching and also with utilization calculations. If you just download the 6.00-BETA2 package then you would also want to grab the patch I posted to the bug tracker. Enjoy, I do. -- Mike Oliver, KT2T +1-863-738-2334 kt2t@arrl.net -or- mwoliver@gmail.com Twitter: @mwoliver
good for you Mike, for contributing. thanks. -g
Open Source world - leaching off the good will and effort of the Open Source community, yet give nothing in return.
then you would also want to grab the patch I posted to the bug tracker. Enjoy, I do.
-- Mike Oliver, KT2T
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We ended up writing our own package, which we may end up offering commercially when it is polished enough. One of the perks of having a web development branch. -Blake
It seems Ipplan V6 is a pretty widely used tool after reading the recent discussions. I would encourage anyone using it to donate some money. The project page has some paypal buttons. I am not affiliated with IPPLAN at all but use it quite a bit. $5 is not too much to spare for such a valuable tool. Justin -- Justin Wilson <j2sw@mtin.net> Aol & Yahoo IM: j2sw http://www.mtin.net/blog xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting Tower Climbing Network Support From: Greg Whynott <Greg.Whynott@oicr.on.ca> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 13:32:23 -0500 To: Mike Oliver <mwoliver@gmail.com> Cc: nanog <nanog@merit.edu> Subject: Re: IPv6 Space Management. Tracking, not Allocating good for you Mike, for contributing. thanks. -g
Open Source world - leaching off the good will and effort of the Open Source community, yet give nothing in return.
then you would also want to grab the patch I posted to the bug tracker. Enjoy, I do.
-- Mike Oliver, KT2T
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On 11/17/10 9:22 AM, chip wrote:
There's been lots of discussion on how we should allocate space to various bits of the network. What I haven't yet seen is how people are tracking these allocations. Is everyone using one of the two or three commercial applications or some OSS solution or a few large(ish) text files? Anyone have any recommendations or feedback?
Thanks!
--chip
Take a look at Netdot: https://netdot.uoregon.edu/trac/ http://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog49/presentations/Tuesday/Vicente-netdot-p... We are working on more and better v6 support for future releases, but it can already be used to track v6 allocations. cv
On 17/11/2010 17:22, chip wrote:
There's been lots of discussion on how we should allocate space to various bits of the network. What I haven't yet seen is how people are tracking these allocations. Is everyone using one of the two or three commercial applications or some OSS solution or a few large(ish) text files? Anyone have any recommendations or feedback?
Thanks!
--chip
I've been playing with HaCi and quite like it http://haci.larsux.de/ Vince
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Vincent Hoffman