Favorite Speed Test Systems
For many years we have had a local instance of the Ookla speedtest.net on our network, and while it is pretty good some other tests seem include more detailed results. I am aware of the following speedtest systems that an operator can likely have a local instance of: * Speedtest.net * Sourceforge.net/speedtest * Dslreports.com/speedtest Are there others? What is your preferred one and why? Thanks, Graham
For testing downloads, fast.com is pretty nice Nick Ryce Fluency Communications (Commsworld Ltd T/A) T: +44 (0) 330 121 1000 www.fluency.net.uk <http://www.fluency.net.uk/> nick@fluency.net.uk On 05/12/2016, 14:50, "NANOG on behalf of Graham Johnston" <nanog-bounces@nanog.org on behalf of johnstong@westmancom.com> wrote: For many years we have had a local instance of the Ookla speedtest.net on our network, and while it is pretty good some other tests seem include more detailed results. I am aware of the following speedtest systems that an operator can likely have a local instance of: * Speedtest.net * Sourceforge.net/speedtest * Dslreports.com/speedtest Are there others? What is your preferred one and why? Thanks, Graham
On 05-12-2016 16:34, Nick Ryce wrote:
For testing downloads, fast.com is pretty nice
The problem with fast.com is that they use HTTPS for the test. The user needs a fast computer to decode the SSL at full speed. Even if you have a very fast computer the test will max out at 100-200 Mbps because the Netflix servers are apparently not able to encode SSL any faster. Maybe we would get better speed if multiple SSL connections were used. I just did a test on fast.com and got 150 Mbps. Click the compare on speedtest.net button and I got 940 Mbps at beta.speedtest.net. The computer is Intel i7 5820K, the OS is Ubuntu 16.04 and the internet is 1 Gbps delivered on GPON. The test runs on IPv6. We are directly peered with Netflix with 2x10G and there is plenty of capacity. It appears fast.com is on Akamai but the test itself is downloading data via our peering. Regards, Baldur
:On 05-12-2016 16:34, Nick Ryce wrote: :> For testing downloads, fast.com is pretty nice :> : :The problem with fast.com is that they use HTTPS for the test. The user needs :a fast computer to decode the SSL at full speed. Even if you have a very fast :computer the test will max out at 100-200 Mbps because the Netflix servers :are apparently not able to encode SSL any faster. Maybe we would get better :speed if multiple SSL connections were used. I've run into the opposite problem -- fast.com sporadically reporting 1+ Gbps times for circuits that are only 20-40 Mbps. There's no obvious client-side issues -- no proxying, interesting browsers, etc. fast.com is glitchy just often enough to give some friends of mine silly glee when it misreports. -Mike -- Michael J. O'Connor mjo@dojo.mi.org =--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--= "A superhero should always speak from his diaphragm!" -The Tick
fast.com is a dead fast/simple download result page. ...also with a huge customer base - it is often closer to speedtest.<ISP>.net|com than some of those others. There is also a speedtest-cli available on Linux/MacOS (via Brew). On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 9:50 AM, Graham Johnston <johnstong@westmancom.com> wrote:
For many years we have had a local instance of the Ookla speedtest.net on our network, and while it is pretty good some other tests seem include more detailed results.
I am aware of the following speedtest systems that an operator can likely have a local instance of:
* Speedtest.net
* Sourceforge.net/speedtest
* Dslreports.com/speedtest
Are there others? What is your preferred one and why?
Thanks, Graham
-- Miano, Steven M. http://stevenmiano.com
A lot of people have crappy performance to those. For example, from a 10G server to fast.com I was pulling around 9Mbps up/down. 1 hop away from a Netflix open connect appliance. On Dec 5, 2016 9:49 AM, "Steven Miano" <mianosm@gmail.com> wrote:
fast.com is a dead fast/simple download result page.
...also with a huge customer base - it is often closer to speedtest.<ISP>.net|com than some of those others.
There is also a speedtest-cli available on Linux/MacOS (via Brew).
On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 9:50 AM, Graham Johnston <johnstong@westmancom.com> wrote:
For many years we have had a local instance of the Ookla speedtest.net on our network, and while it is pretty good some other tests seem include more detailed results.
I am aware of the following speedtest systems that an operator can likely have a local instance of:
* Speedtest.net
* Sourceforge.net/speedtest
* Dslreports.com/speedtest
Are there others? What is your preferred one and why?
Thanks, Graham
-- Miano, Steven M. http://stevenmiano.com
Ah, this is the first I've heard of slow fast.com performance with someone actually connected to them. Usually it's an ISP that's a few AS hops away from Netflix. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josh Reynolds" <josh@kyneticwifi.com> To: "Steven Miano" <mianosm@gmail.com> Cc: "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 9:51:30 AM Subject: Re: Favorite Speed Test Systems A lot of people have crappy performance to those. For example, from a 10G server to fast.com I was pulling around 9Mbps up/down. 1 hop away from a Netflix open connect appliance. On Dec 5, 2016 9:49 AM, "Steven Miano" <mianosm@gmail.com> wrote:
fast.com is a dead fast/simple download result page.
...also with a huge customer base - it is often closer to speedtest.<ISP>.net|com than some of those others.
There is also a speedtest-cli available on Linux/MacOS (via Brew).
On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 9:50 AM, Graham Johnston <johnstong@westmancom.com> wrote:
For many years we have had a local instance of the Ookla speedtest.net on our network, and while it is pretty good some other tests seem include more detailed results.
I am aware of the following speedtest systems that an operator can likely have a local instance of:
* Speedtest.net
* Sourceforge.net/speedtest
* Dslreports.com/speedtest
Are there others? What is your preferred one and why?
Thanks, Graham
-- Miano, Steven M. http://stevenmiano.com
There was an afmug thread about this exact issue several months ago. On Dec 5, 2016 9:57 AM, "Mike Hammett" <nanog@ics-il.net> wrote:
Ah, this is the first I've heard of slow fast.com performance with someone actually connected to them. Usually it's an ISP that's a few AS hops away from Netflix.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
----- Original Message -----
From: "Josh Reynolds" <josh@kyneticwifi.com> To: "Steven Miano" <mianosm@gmail.com> Cc: "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 9:51:30 AM Subject: Re: Favorite Speed Test Systems
A lot of people have crappy performance to those. For example, from a 10G server to fast.com I was pulling around 9Mbps up/down. 1 hop away from a Netflix open connect appliance.
On Dec 5, 2016 9:49 AM, "Steven Miano" <mianosm@gmail.com> wrote:
fast.com is a dead fast/simple download result page.
...also with a huge customer base - it is often closer to speedtest.<ISP>.net|com than some of those others.
There is also a speedtest-cli available on Linux/MacOS (via Brew).
On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 9:50 AM, Graham Johnston < johnstong@westmancom.com> wrote:
For many years we have had a local instance of the Ookla speedtest.net on our network, and while it is pretty good some other tests seem include more detailed results.
I am aware of the following speedtest systems that an operator can likely have a local instance of:
* Speedtest.net
* Sourceforge.net/speedtest
* Dslreports.com/speedtest
Are there others? What is your preferred one and why?
Thanks, Graham
-- Miano, Steven M. http://stevenmiano.com
Right, it's mostly ISPs that don't understand the BGP world or how speedtests work. I think, you, Paul and myself were the only ones participating that really knew. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josh Reynolds" <josh@kyneticwifi.com> To: "Mike Hammett" <nanog@ics-il.net> Cc: "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 10:28:22 AM Subject: Re: Favorite Speed Test Systems There was an afmug thread about this exact issue several months ago. On Dec 5, 2016 9:57 AM, "Mike Hammett" < nanog@ics-il.net > wrote: Ah, this is the first I've heard of slow fast.com performance with someone actually connected to them. Usually it's an ISP that's a few AS hops away from Netflix. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josh Reynolds" < josh@kyneticwifi.com > To: "Steven Miano" < mianosm@gmail.com > Cc: "NANOG" < nanog@nanog.org > Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 9:51:30 AM Subject: Re: Favorite Speed Test Systems A lot of people have crappy performance to those. For example, from a 10G server to fast.com I was pulling around 9Mbps up/down. 1 hop away from a Netflix open connect appliance. On Dec 5, 2016 9:49 AM, "Steven Miano" < mianosm@gmail.com > wrote:
fast.com is a dead fast/simple download result page.
...also with a huge customer base - it is often closer to speedtest.<ISP>.net|com than some of those others.
There is also a speedtest-cli available on Linux/MacOS (via Brew).
On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 9:50 AM, Graham Johnston < johnstong@westmancom.com > wrote:
For many years we have had a local instance of the Ookla speedtest.net on our network, and while it is pretty good some other tests seem include more detailed results.
I am aware of the following speedtest systems that an operator can likely have a local instance of:
* Speedtest.net
* Sourceforge.net/speedtest
* Dslreports.com/speedtest
Are there others? What is your preferred one and why?
Thanks, Graham
-- Miano, Steven M. http://stevenmiano.com
A lot of people can't differentiate between what the test is testing, a bad test and connectivity issues producing bad results on an otherwise good test. I'd say that most of the time, it's the last category. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Hammett" <nanog@ics-il.net> Cc: "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 12:42:56 PM Subject: Re: Favorite Speed Test Systems Right, it's mostly ISPs that don't understand the BGP world or how speedtests work. I think, you, Paul and myself were the only ones participating that really knew. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josh Reynolds" <josh@kyneticwifi.com> To: "Mike Hammett" <nanog@ics-il.net> Cc: "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 10:28:22 AM Subject: Re: Favorite Speed Test Systems There was an afmug thread about this exact issue several months ago. On Dec 5, 2016 9:57 AM, "Mike Hammett" < nanog@ics-il.net > wrote: Ah, this is the first I've heard of slow fast.com performance with someone actually connected to them. Usually it's an ISP that's a few AS hops away from Netflix. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josh Reynolds" < josh@kyneticwifi.com > To: "Steven Miano" < mianosm@gmail.com > Cc: "NANOG" < nanog@nanog.org > Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 9:51:30 AM Subject: Re: Favorite Speed Test Systems A lot of people have crappy performance to those. For example, from a 10G server to fast.com I was pulling around 9Mbps up/down. 1 hop away from a Netflix open connect appliance. On Dec 5, 2016 9:49 AM, "Steven Miano" < mianosm@gmail.com > wrote:
fast.com is a dead fast/simple download result page.
...also with a huge customer base - it is often closer to speedtest.<ISP>.net|com than some of those others.
There is also a speedtest-cli available on Linux/MacOS (via Brew).
On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 9:50 AM, Graham Johnston < johnstong@westmancom.com > wrote:
For many years we have had a local instance of the Ookla speedtest.net on our network, and while it is pretty good some other tests seem include more detailed results.
I am aware of the following speedtest systems that an operator can likely have a local instance of:
* Speedtest.net
* Sourceforge.net/speedtest
* Dslreports.com/speedtest
Are there others? What is your preferred one and why?
Thanks, Graham
-- Miano, Steven M. http://stevenmiano.com
First, you only get down from fast.com not up - so the up/down is a bit suspect there. Second, this is a more 'real world' test than iperf - if you want to ensure that your NIC is operating at the rated speed I'd imagine you'd have the ability to setup an iperf target and check Layer2/Layer3 transfer speeds/etc. Third, you should really look into that if you are 1 hop away and getting that type of speed. Clearly you deserve better. ;-) 80Mbps result (with comparison link if you don't like that one): http://i.imgur.com/Cnr92Ag.png - of course I'm on a 240Mbps WAN connection: *Last Result:* Download Speed: *236960* kbps (29620 KB/sec transfer rate) Upload Speed: *22991* kbps (2873.9 KB/sec transfer rate) Latency: *12* ms Jitter: *2* ms 12/5/2016, 10:57:56 AM (Those results are from my provider in the Tampa Bay area at: speedtest.bhn.net). ~Steven On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 10:51 AM, Josh Reynolds <josh@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
A lot of people have crappy performance to those. For example, from a 10G server to fast.com I was pulling around 9Mbps up/down. 1 hop away from a Netflix open connect appliance.
On Dec 5, 2016 9:49 AM, "Steven Miano" <mianosm@gmail.com> wrote:
fast.com is a dead fast/simple download result page.
...also with a huge customer base - it is often closer to speedtest.<ISP>.net|com than some of those others.
There is also a speedtest-cli available on Linux/MacOS (via Brew).
On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 9:50 AM, Graham Johnston <johnstong@westmancom.com
wrote:
For many years we have had a local instance of the Ookla speedtest.net on our network, and while it is pretty good some other tests seem include more detailed results.
I am aware of the following speedtest systems that an operator can likely have a local instance of:
* Speedtest.net
* Sourceforge.net/speedtest
* Dslreports.com/speedtest
Are there others? What is your preferred one and why?
Thanks, Graham
-- Miano, Steven M. http://stevenmiano.com
-- Miano, Steven M. http://stevenmiano.com
I was thinking they tested up too, but still.. Never had good performance testing to them upon release. Good connectivity with several diverse upstreams. Always had better results with beta.speedtest. YMMV On Dec 5, 2016 9:59 AM, "Steven Miano" <mianosm@gmail.com> wrote:
First, you only get down from fast.com not up - so the up/down is a bit suspect there.
Second, this is a more 'real world' test than iperf - if you want to ensure that your NIC is operating at the rated speed I'd imagine you'd have the ability to setup an iperf target and check Layer2/Layer3 transfer speeds/etc.
Third, you should really look into that if you are 1 hop away and getting that type of speed. Clearly you deserve better. ;-)
80Mbps result (with comparison link if you don't like that one): http://i.imgur.com/Cnr92Ag.png - of course I'm on a 240Mbps WAN connection:
*Last Result:* Download Speed: *236960* kbps (29620 KB/sec transfer rate) Upload Speed: *22991* kbps (2873.9 KB/sec transfer rate) Latency: *12* ms Jitter: *2* ms 12/5/2016, 10:57:56 AM
(Those results are from my provider in the Tampa Bay area at: speedtest.bhn.net).
~Steven
On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 10:51 AM, Josh Reynolds <josh@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
A lot of people have crappy performance to those. For example, from a 10G server to fast.com I was pulling around 9Mbps up/down. 1 hop away from a Netflix open connect appliance.
On Dec 5, 2016 9:49 AM, "Steven Miano" <mianosm@gmail.com> wrote:
fast.com is a dead fast/simple download result page.
...also with a huge customer base - it is often closer to speedtest.<ISP>.net|com than some of those others.
There is also a speedtest-cli available on Linux/MacOS (via Brew).
On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 9:50 AM, Graham Johnston < johnstong@westmancom.com> wrote:
For many years we have had a local instance of the Ookla speedtest.net on our network, and while it is pretty good some other tests seem include more detailed results.
I am aware of the following speedtest systems that an operator can likely have a local instance of:
* Speedtest.net
* Sourceforge.net/speedtest
* Dslreports.com/speedtest
Are there others? What is your preferred one and why?
Thanks, Graham
-- Miano, Steven M. http://stevenmiano.com
-- Miano, Steven M. http://stevenmiano.com
On 05/12/2016 16:50, Graham Johnston wrote: http://openspeedtest.com/ http://labs.comcast.com/beta-testing-a-new-open-source-speed-test -Hank
For many years we have had a local instance of the Ookla speedtest.net on our network, and while it is pretty good some other tests seem include more detailed results.
I am aware of the following speedtest systems that an operator can likely have a local instance of:
* Speedtest.net
* Sourceforge.net/speedtest
* Dslreports.com/speedtest
Are there others? What is your preferred one and why?
Thanks, Graham
On 12/5/2016 12:31 PM, Hank Nussbacher wrote:
On 05/12/2016 16:50, Graham Johnston wrote:
Pegs my connection at 40.30 mbps upload. I have Comcast 25/5. My upload is usually in the 6 or 7 mbps range.
On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 11:31 AM, Hank Nussbacher <hank@efes.iucc.ac.il> wrote:
On 05/12/2016 16:50, Graham Johnston wrote:
http://labs.comcast.com/beta-testing-a-new-open-source-speed-test
-Hank
I'm impressed that openspeedtest.com supports IPv6! I haven't noticed this in too many speedtests yet, and its something I've been asked about on occasion. Theodore Baschak - AS395089 - Hextet Systems https://ciscodude.net/ - https://hextet.systems/ http://mbix.ca/
My company Speedchecker offers good alternative, we have HTML5 technology as well as native SDKs for mobile such as iOS,Android and Windows I can send more information about our measurement methodology, customer base etc if required. We did comparison of Fast.com and our technology few months ago here - http://blog.speedchecker.xyz/2016/09/08/are-isps-still-throttling-netflix/ Regards, Janusz Jezowicz *Speedchecker Ltd* *email*: janusz@speedchecker.xyz *skype*: jezowicz *phone*: +442032863573 *web*: www.speedchecker.xyz The Black Church, St. Mary’s Place, Dublin 7, D07 P4AX, Ireland On 5 December 2016 at 15:50, Graham Johnston <johnstong@westmancom.com> wrote:
For many years we have had a local instance of the Ookla speedtest.net on our network, and while it is pretty good some other tests seem include more detailed results.
I am aware of the following speedtest systems that an operator can likely have a local instance of:
* Speedtest.net
* Sourceforge.net/speedtest
* Dslreports.com/speedtest
Are there others? What is your preferred one and why?
Thanks, Graham
I like nperf.com as I usually always get consistent results and you can keep track of your results if you sign up. They only have one server in Canada (hosted by OVH in Beauharnois) but you can host your own like Ookla's Speedtest.net. On 5 December 2016 at 15:37, Janusz Jezowicz <janusz@speedchecker.xyz> wrote:
My company Speedchecker offers good alternative, we have HTML5 technology as well as native SDKs for mobile such as iOS,Android and Windows
I can send more information about our measurement methodology, customer base etc if required.
We did comparison of Fast.com and our technology few months ago here - http://blog.speedchecker.xyz/2016/09/08/are-isps-still-throttling-netflix/
Regards,
Janusz Jezowicz *Speedchecker Ltd* *email*: janusz@speedchecker.xyz *skype*: jezowicz *phone*: +442032863573 *web*: www.speedchecker.xyz The Black Church, St. Mary’s Place, Dublin 7, D07 P4AX, Ireland
On 5 December 2016 at 15:50, Graham Johnston <johnstong@westmancom.com> wrote:
For many years we have had a local instance of the Ookla speedtest.net on our network, and while it is pretty good some other tests seem include more detailed results.
I am aware of the following speedtest systems that an operator can likely have a local instance of:
* Speedtest.net
* Sourceforge.net/speedtest
* Dslreports.com/speedtest
Are there others? What is your preferred one and why?
Thanks, Graham
On 5 Dec 2016, at 21:50, Graham Johnston wrote:
What is your preferred one and why?
<http://testmy.net/> Thorough, reasonable teat methodology, allows one to store history, decent range of test servers worldwide. ----------------------------------- Roland Dobbins <rdobbins@arbor.net>
There is also http://speedof.me/ tool around for a while as well as: https://sourceforge.net/speedtest/ http://www.bandwidthplace.com/ http://testmy.net/ I've got a good result of 880Mbps[1] from fast.com from 6 hops away (~9ms)[2]: [1] http://pasteboard.co/6xAnRRa6F.png [2] http://pasteboard.co/6xBIViwaM.png 2016-12-06 0:38 GMT-02:00 Roland Dobbins <rdobbins@arbor.net>:
On 5 Dec 2016, at 21:50, Graham Johnston wrote:
What is your preferred one and why?
Thorough, reasonable teat methodology, allows one to store history, decent range of test servers worldwide.
----------------------------------- Roland Dobbins <rdobbins@arbor.net>
On 5 December 2016 at 14:50, Graham Johnston <johnstong@westmancom.com> wrote:
Are there others? What is your preferred one and why?
Generally I don't bother with speed testers unless I'm wanting a quick guesstimate -- I wouldn't recommend using them as a measure of how "fast" an internet connection is because there's always other factors in contention, and it only tests the path to the speedtester. Having said that, despite the obnoxious adverts on the site, speedof.me provides a really nice non-flash interface that is an excellent teaching tool for showing people how TCP congestion windows work, and lets you demonstrate to people the effect of buffers in a network etc. I'll be taking notes if anyone provides anything else similar that does a similar (if not better) job, maybe one that can be self-hosted too! M
I've used Visualware's My Connection Server, and the stats it gives are decent. Haven't yet updated to the latest version, which seems to be require client software installation, however. http://www.myconnectionserver.com/ Have also used Ookla's, but it seems more useful to join their speedtest network, than host the standalone, now. ---- On Tue, 06 Dec 2016 07:28:55 -0600 Matthew Walster <matthew@walster.org> wrote ---- On 5 December 2016 at 14:50, Graham Johnston <johnstong@westmancom.com> wrote: > Are there others? What is your preferred one and why? > Generally I don't bother with speed testers unless I'm wanting a quick guesstimate -- I wouldn't recommend using them as a measure of how "fast" an internet connection is because there's always other factors in contention, and it only tests the path to the speedtester. Having said that, despite the obnoxious adverts on the site, speedof.me provides a really nice non-flash interface that is an excellent teaching tool for showing people how TCP congestion windows work, and lets you demonstrate to people the effect of buffers in a network etc. I'll be taking notes if anyone provides anything else similar that does a similar (if not better) job, maybe one that can be self-hosted too! M
http://speedof.me/ Keeps history of past tests and is HTML5 based so no flash or java needed --curtis On 12/5/16, 9:50 AM, "NANOG on behalf of Graham Johnston" <nanog-bounces@nanog.org on behalf of johnstong@westmancom.com> wrote: For many years we have had a local instance of the Ookla speedtest.net on our network, and while it is pretty good some other tests seem include more detailed results. I am aware of the following speedtest systems that an operator can likely have a local instance of: * Speedtest.net * Sourceforge.net/speedtest * Dslreports.com/speedtest Are there others? What is your preferred one and why? Thanks, Graham
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