From: David Howe [mailto:DaveHowe@gmx.co.uk] Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 2:48 AM
... With yet another "update" to the DDos pages. http://grc.com/dos/intro.htm and I quote:
Unfortunately, today we see only the operation of blind self-interest from Microsoft and the Internet's ISP's
As I seem to recall several members of this list offered him help (and were rebuffed) perhaps they would like to comment? He seems increasingly lost in a fantasy world where everyone is out to get him....
The question I have is, would QoS would do any good here? Other then that, he seems to be on a rant here. As much as I hate to say it, I almost agree with MSFT here. That said, Novell stated, decades ago, that MSFT never could understand network security. At the time, I agreed with Novell. Current observation is, that MSFT has yet to learn. Considering MSFT's workstation market-share, that is a problem for all of us.
Implementing fully-compliant sockets in XP is -not- a security issue. There're LOTS of things wrong with the way Microsoft do things, but this simply isn't one of them. It's just amazing to me how credulous the public are when harangued by such an obvious snake-oil salesman. Steve Gibson, a hero in his own mind. Roeland Meyer wrote:
From: David Howe [mailto:DaveHowe@gmx.co.uk] Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 2:48 AM
... With yet another "update" to the DDos pages. http://grc.com/dos/intro.htm and I quote:
Unfortunately, today we see only the operation of blind
self-interest from
Microsoft and the Internet's ISP's
As I seem to recall several members of this list offered him help (and were rebuffed) perhaps they would like to comment? He seems increasingly lost in a fantasy world where everyone is out to get him....
The question I have is, would QoS would do any good here?
Other then that, he seems to be on a rant here. As much as I hate to say it, I almost agree with MSFT here. That said, Novell stated, decades ago, that MSFT never could understand network security. At the time, I agreed with Novell. Current observation is, that MSFT has yet to learn. Considering MSFT's workstation market-share, that is a problem for all of us.
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Roeland Meyer:
...As much as I hate to say it, I almost agree with MSFT here. That said, Novell stated, decades ago, that MSFT never could understand network security. At the time, I agreed with Novell.
"Decades ago" implies more than one decade ago, which puts this purported statement by Novell sometime prior to 1981. That was a very prescient statement, in light of the fact that networking on Microsoft's then-current OS (DOS 1.0) had not been developed yet. - --- Computers hate being anthropomorphized. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use <http://www.pgp.com> iQA/AwUBO0C8hEksS4VV8BvHEQJjRACgmmr5Ob+Tu8ycWkCBDQDX+FwKEVsAn1nu qM0xrnT9BxqLVi0BcujYpyIp =LATq -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Mon, 02 Jul 2001 11:25:08 PDT, Mike Batchelor <mikebat@tmcs.net> said:
"Decades ago" implies more than one decade ago, which puts this purported statement by Novell sometime prior to 1981. That was a very prescient
Umm.. does "one and a bit more" decades count? One decade ago was 1991, and *two full* decades are required to get to 1981.
On Mon, Jul 02, 2001 at 02:30:45PM -0400, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu exclaimed:
On Mon, 02 Jul 2001 11:25:08 PDT, Mike Batchelor <mikebat@tmcs.net> said:
"Decades ago" implies more than one decade ago, which puts this purported statement by Novell sometime prior to 1981. That was a very prescient
"That is a form of errant pedantry up with which I will not put." -- Winston Churchill
Umm.. does "one and a bit more" decades count? One decade ago was 1991, and *two full* decades are required to get to 1981.
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