Along a same lines... I'm working on the next white paper on "Peering in Asia" and I'd like to again ask for data points from the community. To start... I remember back at APRICOT in 1999 that some folks (Dave Rand and colleagues maybe?) were talking about an initiative to provide an AP Peering Ring... To help with this research (as before I'll be glad to share the results with anyone who is interested) do any of you have URLs/Research Papers that show: (1) How peering is done in the AP region today? I've heard generally of a) the AP Mesh of 1/2 circuits between countries PTTs, and b) the AP Country Peering Point(s) but I'm curious if anyone has documented down deeper than that generalization. (2) Past Initiatives for AP Region Peering (or AP-US Peering) that have succeeded or (better yet) have failed? (3) Rough #s for Transit Fees in the AP Region. Several of you shared price points of $300-$400USD/Mbps for ~10-50Mbps, maybe $100 for 1+Gbps in Japan. If anyone has done a survey for the AP Region in general as I did in the past in the U.S. markets I'd love to see it. The U.S. curve for example seems to be a stepped function, starting at about $300/Mbps for a few Mbps down to sub $100/Mbps when you get towards the Gbps range. I'd like to hear what AP ISPs are seeing. Thanks in advance and I'll write this up and let you know what I find out. As before, I'll credit the sources that provide the data points and honor anonymity as requested. Hopefully the end result with be of value to the community. Contact information below. Bill --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- William B. Norton <wbn@equinix.com> 650.315.8635 Co-Founder and Chief Technical Liaison Equinix, Inc. Yahoo Instant Messenger ID: WilliamBNorton
I remember back at APRICOT in 1999 that some folks (Dave Rand and colleagues maybe?) were talking about an initiative to provide an AP Peering Ring...
Just out of curiosity on this topic. Is there anyone who ever managed to get a distributed peering point to work? If I remember history somewhat correct, the first attempt was D-GIX back in 1993(?). That failed (if Peter or someone else who was at KTHNOC back then is reading maybe you can give the facts), and I think I know of 3-4 other attempts that failed. Anyone care to shed any light on this? Best regards, - kurtis -
On Fri, 10 Jan 2003, Kurt Erik Lindqvist wrote: > Just out of curiosity on this topic. Is there anyone who ever managed > to get a distributed peering point to work? If I remember history > somewhat correct, the first attempt was D-GIX back in 1993(?). That > failed (if Peter or someone else who was at KTHNOC back then is reading > maybe you can give the facts), and I think I know of 3-4 other attempts > that failed. There's a threshold, defined by a step-function in the price-per-distance of layer-1 services. If you follow that step-function like a line on a topo map until it reconnects with itself, it forms a convex space. Interconnection of switch fabrics within that space is necessary to their success and long-term survival, whereas interconnection of switch fabrics across the border of that space is detrimental to their success and ultimately to their survival. -Bill
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