RE: Attn MCI/UUNet - Massive abuse from your network
Are you offering to finance ISP's legal battles against spammers? -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu To: Ben Browning Cc: nanog@merit.edu Sent: 6/24/2004 9:16 PM Subject: Re: Attn MCI/UUNet - Massive abuse from your network On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 11:50:44 -0700, Ben Browning wrote:
Likewise, I imagine MCI could argue that the damage is to their core product; namely, the trust of other ISPs and their willingness to exchange traffic with MCI.
This was Earthlink's argument in the case I cited in <http://www.camblab.com/nugget/spam_03.pdf>: their connectivity was jeopardized by the spammer's activity. As far as I know they prevailed. The point is, we have not seen MCI go down valiantly on the field of battle against the spammers in court or anywhere else. I proposed a complete open-and-shut legal case to MCI, with the perp's legal service address, and Neil Patel refused to take any action. The management's intention was clear: continue to profit rather than take the perps to court. All this talk about how difficult it would be blah blah blah is just a smokescreen for inaction Jeffrey Race
On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 19:26:10 -0600, Smith, Donald wrote:
Are you offering to finance ISP's legal battles against spammers?
No, it's their network and their legal responsibility to keep it clean. However I did voluntarily prepare a case for Neil Patel to file on behalf of UUNET under the Va computer crimes act, and he refused. I would have been a witness. At this point (esp when he said the matter lay with "Mr Ebbers", who is now up on other criminal charges) it became obvious what was the ethical level of this firm's management. Jeffrey Race
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