----- Original Message Follows ----- From: Henry Linneweh <hrlinneweh@sbcglobal.net>

Personally as a manager I want to know the problem and then the workable solution. I just don't see that many bot nets happening anymore.

You aren't looking close enough. Go to any university network, run NTop at the top of the network or Nessus scans and you'll find the drones communicating in surprising numbers. All you have to do is proactively look for them and you'll find them... scott