Re: Why do we use facilities with EPO's?
If they can be avoided, why do we put up with them?
Major electrical fire, or arcing in the datacenter. Flood in the datacenter. Accidental water sprinkler discharge in the datacenter. Equipment fire that the FM-200 didn't put out, and you want not to have the sprinklers go off if you can avoid it. Equipment fire in a room without FM-200 in the first place. Equipment fire with sprinkler discharge, and you'd really rather just dry out the equipment than have to replace it all. Electrical worker who's electrocuted himself and going to die if you can't make the power go away. There are a very few exceptions, but for our practical purposes, people really ought to simply go to multiple site redundancy rather than thinking about bending major safety assumptions in how we operate individual buildings. You may have a few less outages, but you may also kill someone. What the Navy does on ships, for critical ship safety and combat systems; what the FAA does for their radar facilities and air traffic control facilities; what Telcos do, these are different operating regimes, and there are associated higher risk acceptance with the different equipment setups and safety procedures. -george william herbert gherbert@retro.com
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There are a very few exceptions, but for our practical purposes, people really ought to simply go to multiple site redundancy rather than thinking about bending major safety assumptions in how we operate individual buildings. You may have a few less outages, but you may also kill someone.
What the Navy does on ships, for critical ship safety and combat systems; what the FAA does for their radar facilities and air traffic control facilities; what Telcos do, these are different operating regimes, and there are associated higher risk acceptance with the different equipment setups and safety procedures.
Indeed. The Navy uses a 'battleshort' at times. This is the ultimate penny in the fusebox; a shunt around the breakers on critical systems... such as main gun turret hydraulics & firing controls. They are there because the analysis was it better to have some things catch fire than to be impotent when the Bismark or the Graf Spay is shooting at you. [NASA used a similar battleshort at Houston MSC during the final seconds of the A-11 descent, and other short critical periods.] In both cases, HIGHLY trained people with LOTS of resources were on the job. Plus, at least in the Navy case, casualties were an accepted risk; even if you kill folks in one turret, if you get a hit that saves your ship..... Needless to say, your insurance company is not likely take that view, no matter how many pron feeds SLA's your EPO will break. Nor will the local prosecutor trying a manslaughter case when a fire-fighter dies. -- A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz@nrk.com & no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433 is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433
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