enet.local> References: <8D870AB38C30EC4C848A11A3F83D20D8060A3EF41A@exchange2007.mmicmanhome net.local> X-Disclaimed: 54822 To: "nanog@merit.edu" <nanog@merit.edu> Subject: Re: Level(3) faux paux MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Build V80_M5_05202007 May 20, 2007 Message-ID: <OFC2D9836F.46E3A44F-ON85257316.00487CA5-85257316.004969A9@mail.kals ec.com> From: trainier@kalsec.com Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 09:18:12 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on kalmail/Kalsec(Release 7.0.2FP1|January 10, 2007) at 07/12/2007 09:18:13 AM, Serialize complete at 07/12/2007 09:18:13 AM Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 004969A585257316_=" Sender: owner-nanog@merit.edu Precedence: bulk Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu X-Loop: nanog X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=mozart.merit.edu X-Junkmail-SD-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A090206.46962B88.0011:SCGAP167720,ss=1,fgs=0, ip=198.108.1.26, so=2006-09-22 03:48:54, dmn=5.3.14/2007-05-31 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 004969A585257316_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable owner-nanog@merit.edu wrote on 07/12/2007 01:56:32 AM:

I have noticed that Level(3) misconfigs/outages seem to happen more=20 frequently than with most other Tier 1?s. Am unsure whether or not=20 this is a mis-statement, but based on NANOG posts, Level(3) [AS3356] seems to show up more often with issues than say Sprint [AS1239].

As mentioned previously, there are a lot of variables that effect this=20 claim. =20

Is their any one (or any coporation) that keeps track of outages=20 such as these? Would think it might be a good thing to know for=20 proper mulit-homing relationships to minimize the type of outage=20 that Yahoo faced?

A lot of businesses include this sort of data in their quarterly reports.=20 Some of your questions might be answered by reports like this one =3D>=20 http://www.level3.com/newsroom/pressreleases/2007/20070426.html Additionally, I'd do a Google search for terms like "System Availability"=20 and include some Tier 1 providers to see what kind of data comes back. Then just go from there. Tim Rainier =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=20 THIS E-MAIL is private correspondence and is intended only for the=20 identified recipients. We attempt to correctly address all e-mails, but if = for any reason you have received this message in error, please take notice = that you should not disclose or distribute this message to any other=20 person. You should immediately notify the sender and delete this message.=20 If the message contains or attaches CONFIDENTIAL information, you must=20 treat that information confidentially. For questions, please contact the=20 sender. --=_alternative 004969A585257316_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <br> <br><tt><font size=3D2>owner-nanog@merit.edu wrote on 07/12/2007 01:56:32 AM:<br> <br> > I have noticed that Level(3) misconfigs/outages seem to happen more <br> > frequently than with most other Tier 1’s.  Am unsure whether or not <br> > this is a mis-statement, but based on NANOG posts, Level(3) [AS3356]<b= r> > seems to show up more often with issues than say Sprint [AS1239].</fon= t></tt> <br> <br><tt><font size=3D2>As mentioned previously, there are a lot of variables that effect this claim.</font></tt> <br> <br><tt><font size=3D2>  <br> > Is their any one (or any coporation) that keeps track of outages <br> > such as these?  Would think it might be a good thing to know for <br> > proper mulit-homing relationships to minimize the type of outage <br> > that Yahoo faced…</font></tt> <br> <br><tt><font size=3D2>A lot of businesses include this sort of data in the= ir quarterly reports.  Some of your questions might be answered by</font>= </tt> <br><tt><font size=3D2>reports like this one =3D> </font></tt><a href=3D= http://www.level3.com/newsroom/pressreleases/2007/20070426.html><tt><font s= ize=3D2>http://www.level3.com/newsroom/pressreleases/2007/20070426.html</fo= nt></tt></a> <br> <br><tt><font size=3D2>Additionally, I'd do a Google search for terms like "System Availability" and include some Tier 1 providers to see</f= ont></tt> <br><tt><font size=3D2>what kind of data comes back.  Then just go from there.</font></tt> <br> <br><tt><font size=3D2>Best regards,</font></tt> <br> <br><tt><font size=3D2>Tim Rainier</font></tt><font size=3D3 face=3D"sans-s= erif"><br> =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F <br> THIS E-MAIL is private correspondence and is intended only for the identifi= ed recipients. We attempt to correctly address all e-mails, but if for any reason you have received this message in error, please take notice that you should not disclose or distribute this message to any other person. You should immediately notify the sender and delete this message. If the message contains or attaches CONFIDENTIAL information, you must treat that information confidentially. For questions, please contact the sender.</font> --=_alternative 004969A585257316_=--