Re: New Federal Law (COPPA)
One website that collects personal data had a field for Date of Birth. If you entered a DOB that meant that you were underaged, the webpage refused to go further. Thus, the webpage could collect the data where individual was of legal age but would just automatically refuse if under age. This doesnt seem too hard. -B www.cybertelecom.org ------Original Message------ From: Andrew Brown <twofsonet@graffiti.com> To: John Hall <j.hall@f5.com> Sent: April 22, 2000 3:26:39 AM GMT Subject: Re: New Federal Law (COPPA) i was actually implying that if you asked and found out they were 12, you've just broken the law. the only problem (as i see it) is there's no way for you to collect the age information *without* possibly breaking the law. ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup
One website that collects personal data had a field for Date of Birth. If you entered a DOB that meant that you were underaged, the webpage refused to go further. Thus, the webpage could collect the data where individual was of legal age but would just automatically refuse if under age. This doesnt seem too hard.
that sounds like an obvious use of javascript; something that i can't condone. web monkeys^Wdevelopers that know how to do javascript think that it completely obviates the need for cgi. i, of course, know better, but had to spend a week at one point convincing them of this. besides, javascript can be turned off or not work. are you allowed to base your legal defense on something so flimsy? -- |-----< "CODE WARRIOR" >-----| codewarrior@daemon.org * "ah! i see you have the internet twofsonet@graffiti.com (Andrew Brown) that goes *ping*!" andrew@crossbar.com * "information is power -- share the wealth."
On Mon, 24 Apr 2000, Robert Cannon wrote:
One website that collects personal data had a field for Date of Birth. If you entered a DOB that meant that you were underaged, the webpage refused to go further. Thus, the webpage could collect the data where
Is the law specific enough that if you validate but do not store the data you are not in violation? For instance, you could use either client-side javascript or some sort of server validation that would never store anything at that point, but simply "validate" whether or not the user can use your site. If they are "of age," then the site functionality would continue, otherwise redirect them to www.disney.com. Also... What if a user falsifies their DOB to gain access to the site? Is the company not liable at that point? I would assume they would not be liable, but Microsoft probably assumed they would never be broken up because of anti-trust violations. Well, maybe they did. Cheers, Branden R. Williams <brw@netvitality.net> Vice President, Systems - NetVitality, Inc. http://www.netvitality.net/ Internet Commerce Specialists
At 09:48 24/04/00 -0400, Robert Cannon wrote: Or take the persons name and zip and feed it into: http://anybirthday.com/search.htm to get the person's date of birth. Scary, huh?! -Hank
One website that collects personal data had a field for Date of Birth. If you entered a DOB that meant that you were underaged, the webpage refused to go further. Thus, the webpage could collect the data where individual was of legal age but would just automatically refuse if under age. This doesnt seem too hard.
-B www.cybertelecom.org
------Original Message------ From: Andrew Brown <twofsonet@graffiti.com> To: John Hall <j.hall@f5.com> Sent: April 22, 2000 3:26:39 AM GMT Subject: Re: New Federal Law (COPPA)
i was actually implying that if you asked and found out they were 12, you've just broken the law. the only problem (as i see it) is there's no way for you to collect the age information *without* possibly breaking the law.
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Or take the persons name and zip and feed it into: http://anybirthday.com/search.htm to get the person's date of birth.
Scary, huh?!
Well, I gave it a few names to no avail. It's not heard of Jesus Christ, or even Bill Gates. -- A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz@nrk.com & no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433 is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433
Not too ... It could not find DOB for either me, my wife, or my daughter. But then, I've practiced active information control for over 25 years. Others bleed information like sieves hold water. If there were no oblivious sheep, the wolves would start hunting us "harder to find" critters. <grin>
Hank Nussbacher Sent: Monday, April 24, 2000 8:08 AM
At 09:48 24/04/00 -0400, Robert Cannon wrote:
Or take the persons name and zip and feed it into: http://anybirthday.com/search.htm to get the person's date of birth.
Scary, huh?!
-Hank
One website that collects personal data had a field for Date
of Birth. If
you entered a DOB that meant that you were underaged, the webpage refused to go further. Thus, the webpage could collect the data where individual was of legal age but would just automatically refuse if under age. This doesnt seem too hard.
-B www.cybertelecom.org
------Original Message------ From: Andrew Brown <twofsonet@graffiti.com> To: John Hall <j.hall@f5.com> Sent: April 22, 2000 3:26:39 AM GMT Subject: Re: New Federal Law (COPPA)
i was actually implying that if you asked and found out they were 12, you've just broken the law. the only problem (as i see it) is there's no way for you to collect the age information *without* possibly breaking the law.
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