Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote: OK.. Say you can get it into the code train for 200K. What do you do with all those routers that have only 100K or 125K of space left in the flash (if that), and the flash is NOT going to get any bigger without massive abuse of a soldering iron

Being one of these who have massively abused the soldering iron (I run 12.2T on a 3102 and I _do_ plan on running it on an IGS) the fact of the matter is that these days are gone. On my all-mighty home router (7507/RSP2) I have 64 _megs_ of flash that cost me a mere 20 bucks at Fry's and 128 megs of RAM that cost me $0 because I scrounged them from an old server. The RSP2 does not support el-cheapo digital camera flash? That's true, it's not in the list of approved memory. Nevertheless :-D cisco7507#sh diagbus Slot 2: EEPROM format version 1 Route/Switch Processor 2, HW rev 1.02, board revision F0 Flags: cisco 7000 board; 7500 compatible cisco7507#sh ver cisco RSP2 (R4700) processor with 131072K/2072K bytes of memory. R4700 CPU at 100Mhz, Implementation 33, Rev 1.0 64000K bytes of ATA PCMCIA card at slot 0 (Sector size 512 bytes). In modern environments, I have to admit that 2500s are a though call but I will also point out that a 2600 goes for near-to-nothing on eBay, and even when you re-license IOS and upgrade it still costs near-to-nothing. For the enjoyment of Nanog readers, the following links display what you should _not_ do if you don't want to void the warranty on your brand new Cisco 3102 (it was before I decided to run 12.2(T) on it, more soldering has happened since). Michel. http://arneill-py.sacramento.ca.us/photo_albums/first%20album/high/cisco %203000%20decapitated%20serial.jpg http://arneill-py.sacramento.ca.us/photo_albums/first%20album/high/cisco 3000.jpg What do you mean, it's not new? It was new when I bought it!