--- mtinka@globaltransit.net wrote: From: Mark Tinka <mtinka@globaltransit.net> A big fail to our community, for up to this day, not implementing basic routing and forwarding filters that would do away with all this cruft in the first place. Clearly the Youtube/Pakistan/PCCW incident has long been forgotten. ----------------------------------- I know of folks in charge of BGP enabled networks (with downstream BGP customers as well) that have never heard of the Youtube/Pakistan/PCCW incident and don't care if they put extra routes in the table and I doubt that is an isolated situation. Further, I doubt it will change unless they're forced to care by technology somehow. An unfortunate situation for sure... scott