More product suggestions: small/cheap IS-IS or VXLAN devices?
At the risk of sounding like a broken record, I’m asking for product suggestions yet again: We’re wondering if anything small & cheap (think CPE-grade) exists that supports either IS-IS or VXLAN? If IS-IS, total route count it would have to carry would be small, probably in the ~500 range. If VXLAN, it needs to interoperate with Arista. If both… yay! When I say CPE-grade, I mean under C$1k (~US$800, ~€700), and can be emplaced at a customer site without any unusual infrastructure (e.g. no -48VDC power, or DIN rail mounting, non-business-office-typical). Thanks in advance, everyone. -Adam Adam Thompson Consultant, Infrastructure Services [MERLIN] 100 - 135 Innovation Drive Winnipeg, MB, R3T 6A8 (204) 977-6824 or 1-800-430-6404 (MB only) athompson@merlin.mb.ca<mailto:athompson@merlin.mb.ca> www.merlin.mb.ca<http://www.merlin.mb.ca/>
Two that immediately come to mind are: - If you don't need anything dynamic, you can run VXLAN on any Linux box. So just a random server would work. https://vincent.bernat.ch/en/blog/2017-vxlan-linux - RouterOS v7 added VXLAN, so now you can do that in a MikroTik box, or in a Cloud-Hosted Router (their VM). https://help.mikrotik.com/docs/display/ROS/VXLAN Hard to beat the price point on either. -- Hunter Fuller (they) Router Jockey VBH M-1A +1 256 824 5331 Office of Information Technology The University of Alabama in Huntsville Network Engineering On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 5:45 PM Adam Thompson <athompson@merlin.mb.ca> wrote:
At the risk of sounding like a broken record, I’m asking for product suggestions yet again:
We’re wondering if anything small & cheap (think CPE-grade) exists that supports either IS-IS or VXLAN?
If IS-IS, total route count it would have to carry would be small, probably in the ~500 range.
If VXLAN, it needs to interoperate with Arista.
If both… yay!
When I say CPE-grade, I mean under C$1k (~US$800, ~€700), and can be emplaced at a customer site without any unusual infrastructure (e.g. no -48VDC power, or DIN rail mounting, non-business-office-typical).
Thanks in advance, everyone.
-Adam
*Adam Thompson* Consultant, Infrastructure Services [image: MERLIN] 100 - 135 Innovation Drive Winnipeg, MB, R3T 6A8 (204) 977-6824 or 1-800-430-6404 (MB only) athompson@merlin.mb.ca www.merlin.mb.ca
On 2/23/22 09:04, Hunter Fuller via NANOG wrote:
Two that immediately come to mind are:
- If you don't need anything dynamic, you can run VXLAN on any Linux box. So just a random server would work. https://vincent.bernat.ch/en/blog/2017-vxlan-linux
IS-IS support in Quagga and FRR is still spotty. I will be testing FRR 8.1 (on FreeBSD) soon to see if previous issues have since been resolved.
- RouterOS v7 added VXLAN, so now you can do that in a MikroTik box, or in a Cloud-Hosted Router (their VM). https://help.mikrotik.com/docs/display/ROS/VXLAN
Hard to beat the price point on either.
AFAIK, Mikrotik do not support IS-IS. Mark.
On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 at 01:47, Adam Thompson <athompson@merlin.mb.ca> wrote: If IS-IS, total route count it would have to carry would be small, probably
in the ~500 range.
If VXLAN, it needs to interoperate with Arista.
If both… yay!
When I say CPE-grade, I mean under C$1k (~US$800, ~€700), and can be emplaced at a customer site without any unusual infrastructure (e.g. no -48VDC power, or DIN rail mounting, non-business-office-typical).
You can get CSCO ISR, JNPR SRX and Huawei AR in that range. -- ++ytti
Le mer. 23 févr. 2022 à 00:44, Adam Thompson <athompson@merlin.mb.ca> a écrit :
At the risk of sounding like a broken record, I’m asking for product suggestions yet again:
We’re wondering if anything small & cheap (think CPE-grade) exists that supports either IS-IS or VXLAN?
If IS-IS, total route count it would have to carry would be small, probably in the ~500 range.
If VXLAN, it needs to interoperate with Arista.
If both… yay!
Hi Adam, A very late answer on that topic. You could look at VyOS devices compatible, VXLAN is working on the 1.4 rolling release. No idea about the timeline for this version to become the main train. We've shared an article on our lab tests of VyOS/Arista/Cumulus VX interop in a EVPN VXLAN bgp/bgp fabric, it could help you in your research : https://wiki.nesevo.com/index.php/VyosAristaCVX-VXLAN-lab
When I say CPE-grade, I mean under C$1k (~US$800, ~€700), and can be emplaced at a customer site without any unusual infrastructure (e.g. no -48VDC power, or DIN rail mounting, non-business-office-typical).
You should find something which fits your needs here : https://vyos.io/hcl/?vendor=edgecore-networks&vendor=lanner-electronics-inc&vendor=dell&vendor=aaeon BR, Pierre
Probably not an option for us, but thank you – I wasn’t aware VyOS included VXLAN. Merci, -Adam Adam Thompson Consultant, Infrastructure Services [MERLIN] 100 - 135 Innovation Drive Winnipeg, MB, R3T 6A8 (204) 977-6824 or 1-800-430-6404 (MB only) athompson@merlin.mb.ca<mailto:athompson@merlin.mb.ca> www.merlin.mb.ca<http://www.merlin.mb.ca/> From: Pierre LANCASTRE <pierre.lancastre@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2022 11:23 AM To: Adam Thompson <athompson@merlin.mb.ca> Cc: nanog <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re: More product suggestions: small/cheap IS-IS or VXLAN devices? Le mer. 23 févr. 2022 à 00:44, Adam Thompson <athompson@merlin.mb.ca<mailto:athompson@merlin.mb.ca>> a écrit : At the risk of sounding like a broken record, I’m asking for product suggestions yet again: We’re wondering if anything small & cheap (think CPE-grade) exists that supports either IS-IS or VXLAN? If IS-IS, total route count it would have to carry would be small, probably in the ~500 range. If VXLAN, it needs to interoperate with Arista. If both… yay! Hi Adam, A very late answer on that topic. You could look at VyOS devices compatible, VXLAN is working on the 1.4 rolling release. No idea about the timeline for this version to become the main train. We've shared an article on our lab tests of VyOS/Arista/Cumulus VX interop in a EVPN VXLAN bgp/bgp fabric, it could help you in your research : https://wiki.nesevo.com/index.php/VyosAristaCVX-VXLAN-lab When I say CPE-grade, I mean under C$1k (~US$800, ~€700), and can be emplaced at a customer site without any unusual infrastructure (e.g. no -48VDC power, or DIN rail mounting, non-business-office-typical). You should find something which fits your needs here : https://vyos.io/hcl/?vendor=edgecore-networks&vendor=lanner-electronics-inc&vendor=dell&vendor=aaeon BR, Pierre
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