Re: [nsp] known networks for broadcast ping attacks
Folks who want vendors to change the default changed so that routers don't - by default - forward directed broadcast should contact their vendors. If lots of ISPs speak up, the vendors generally _will_ listen and make changes/fixes. I've already been leaning on cisco to do this. So far, cisco is indicating "limited customer demand" to change this default. Those others of you who are using cisco and want this change made should speak up to your sales folks and other contacts in cisco. Ran rja@home.net
I would suggest that interested parties follow Ran's advice, and bitch really loudly. - paul
Folks who want vendors to change the default changed so that routers don't - by default - forward directed broadcast should contact their vendors. If lots of ISPs speak up, the vendors generally _will_ listen and make changes/fixes.
I've already been leaning on cisco to do this. So far, cisco is indicating "limited customer demand" to change this default. Those others of you who are using cisco and want this change made should speak up to your sales folks and other contacts in cisco.
Ran rja@home.net
Paul Ferguson wrote:
I would suggest that interested parties follow Ran's advice, and bitch really loudly.
- paul
Folks who want vendors to change the default changed so that routers don't - by default - forward directed broadcast should contact their vendors. If lots of ISPs speak up, the vendors generally _will_ listen and make changes/fixes.
I've already been leaning on cisco to do this. So far, cisco is indicating "limited customer demand" to change this default. Those others of you who are using cisco and want this change made should speak up to your sales folks and other contacts in cisco.
Ran rja@home.net
If anyone wants to be added to the petition for this I will gladly forward it to a very good sales contact that has considerable political clout within Cisco. Just send me your name and representative company and I'll take care of the rest. -pete
Ran Atkinson <rja@corp.home.net> said:
Folks who want vendors to change the default changed so that routers don't - by default - forward directed broadcast should contact their vendors. If lots of ISPs speak up, the vendors generally _will_ listen and make changes/fixes.
How do you know it's a directed broadcast if it's not for a connected subnet? Yes, you can make some guesses, but I am not convinced that that's a good idea. --apb (Alan Barrett)
At 12:45 PM 8/13/97 +0200, Alan Barrett wrote:
How do you know it's a directed broadcast if it's not for a connected subnet? Yes, you can make some guesses, but I am not convinced that that's a good idea.
The last-hop router could do it. Frank Kastenholz Gigapacket Networks
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Alan Barrett
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Frank Kastenholz
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Paul Ferguson
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Peter Giza
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