At 09:06 AM 9/9/96 -0400, Jon Zeeff wrote:
Let's also analyze the cost of wasting the remainder of /24s in this special case. Much worse has happened.
It would be a bad precedent for IANA to be promoting such a waste of space when they are promoting space conservation for everyone else. "Do as I say, not as I do" is a bad policy. Justin Newton Internet Architect Erol's Internet Services
Provider Based Aggregation Zealots: I tend to agree with Karl D. on this matter. Maybe we should just let the Zealot's of Aggregation continue to trespass into IP address space territory and then just launch a legal assault. Many of you must have nothing in life to do but continue to promote a bad policy and try to manipulate those whom do not agree. I highly suggest you stop before angering people who have the financial means to launch a legal warning counter strike. We, of course, do not wish to promote a legal battle nor to be counter-productive. What is important to remember, however, is to understand that any attempt to encroach, tresspass, dominate, re-engineer, the existing 'free-space' in /24 will be a very unpleasant and difficult task. Do everyone a favor on the network and 'move on to more productive' tasks. Continuing in this 'dominate all IP address space' direction by providers is not constructive. Anyone on the list who can refer an attorney experiened in IP and telecom, please feel free to refer them to me. I am happy to continue the lead in opposition to 'complete submission' to the provider based paradigm. And I promise, it will not happen. Best Regards, Tim
In a previous message, Tim Bass wrote:
Provider Based Aggregation Zealots:
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Many of you must have nothing in life to do but continue to promote a bad policy and try to manipulate those whom do not agree. I highly suggest you stop before angering people who have the financial means to launch a legal warning counter strike.
I presume your arguments against heirarchical routing are available for analysis by newcomers such as myself? Like the guy in the oil filter ads says, "sooner or later, you'll pay".... -- David Carmean WB6YZM DC574 <dlc@silcom.com> System/Network Administration, Silicon Beach Communications Unsolicited commercial e-mail not accepted. Violators will be LARTed.
ATTENTION ALL WORTHLESS BEINGS!! I am here to warn you that if you so much as THREATEN to THINK about breathing the same air I do, I will SUE YOU. Go ahead, take your best shot. I don't care how important your tasks are, I'm too clueless to deal with any abrupt and significant change for the better of my corporate existence. In fact, I'm going to keep backing up until I'm THIS CLOSE to other angry people who'll SUE YOU TOO! Go ahead, dare me! I'll call a lawyer, I have one in fact; my mom just passed the bar exam last Thursday. I promise you: it'll be bloody, messy, and horribly disgusting, but GO AHEAD!! I warn you: if you make me do actual work that involves actual thinking and actual outcome analysis, then I will SUE YOU for breach of freedom to be an idiot! I have a lot of money. Just in case you didn't know it, I know buy Arch Deluxe all the time now, and have been known to loan them out to my more unfortunate, less funded and less educated colleagues who have, to this date, only DREAMT of a Fillet-O-Fish, so that damn sure well means I can afford a good attorney who can SUE YOU! Doesn't matter if I get hurt. Doesn't matter if I get lost in the sea of change, doesn't even matter if it's for the Greater Good. All that matters is that I get my way and I'll SUE YOU if I don't. I'm not interested in working together with anyone, I'm not interested in being a part of something, I'm not interested if others have enough air to breathe and I'm SURE AS HELL not interested in taking sides against others who'll SUE ME TOO if I don't take their side. I don't care. All that matters is that I have my way, and NOW. Now shut up before you REALLY piss me off. Oh, and if you know anyone who has the recipe for Secret Sauce, I have a job waiting for them in datacomm. T^HCarl
folks is this appropriate for namedroppers list? thanks /jim
participants (5)
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bound@zk3.dec.com
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Carl Payne
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dlc@silcom.com
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Justin W. Newton
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Tim Bass