OpenTransit (france telecom) depeers cogent
OpenTransit just depeered Cogent. Currently OT sees Cogent behind Sprint/Verio: AS path: 5511 1239 2914 174 13129 I but packets are disapearing in a blackhole. Jonas
On Thu, 14 Apr 2005, Jonas Frey wrote:
OpenTransit just depeered Cogent.
Currently OT sees Cogent behind Sprint/Verio: AS path: 5511 1239 2914 174 13129 I
but packets are disapearing in a blackhole.
So what makes you think they depeered and its not just a temporary outage or configuration error? -- William Leibzon Elan Networks william@elan.net
William, i've got an (inofficial, hence i wont pass it) statement from Cogent about the situation. Jonas On Thu, 2005-04-14 at 15:39, william(at)elan.net wrote:
On Thu, 14 Apr 2005, Jonas Frey wrote:
OpenTransit just depeered Cogent.
Currently OT sees Cogent behind Sprint/Verio: AS path: 5511 1239 2914 174 13129 I
but packets are disapearing in a blackhole.
So what makes you think they depeered and its not just a temporary outage or configuration error?
On Thu, 14 April 2005 06:39:27 -0700, william(at)elan.net wrote:
but packets are disapearing in a blackhole.
So what makes you think they depeered and its not just a temporary outage or configuration error?
Cogent filters all their peers' routes (or the major peers at least) so when they depeer those are pretty much blackholed from Cogent's view. Like Teleglobe lately. Alexander
william(at)elan.net wrote:
OpenTransit just depeered Cogent.
Currently OT sees Cogent behind Sprint/Verio: AS path: 5511 1239 2914 174 13129 I
but packets are disapearing in a blackhole.
So what makes you think they depeered and its not just a temporary outage or configuration error?
In fact, we just discussed today during lunch that some carriers in Germany are about to depeer Cogent for business reasons. Fredy
OpenTransit just depeered Cogent.
Currently OT sees Cogent behind Sprint/Verio: AS path: 5511 1239 2914 174 13129 I
but packets are disapearing in a blackhole.
A colleague of mine at an OLO was telling me that when OT de-peered them the contact number to discuss it was a France Telecom sales person! Its kind of like an tyre fitter from kwik fit coming over and puncturing your tyres and then expecting you to drive into Kwik Fit and pay them to fix them uuhhh I don't think so - do they honestly think that this type of activity is going to generate them any revenue?! Regards, Neil.
On Thu, Apr 14, 2005 at 02:43:49PM +0100, Neil J. McRae wrote:
OpenTransit just depeered Cogent.
Currently OT sees Cogent behind Sprint/Verio: AS path: 5511 1239 2914 174 13129 I
but packets are disapearing in a blackhole.
A colleague of mine at an OLO was telling me that when OT de-peered them the contact number to discuss it was a France Telecom sales person!
Its kind of like an tyre fitter from kwik fit coming over and puncturing your tyres and then expecting you to drive into Kwik Fit and pay them to fix them uuhhh I don't think so - do they honestly think that this type of activity is going to generate them any revenue?!
It has nothing to do with generating revenue, and everything to do with Cogent's disruptive pricing pissing people off. The real question is who will blink first, since the last time this was tried (a few weeks ago, by Teleglobe), Cogent won. For the folks trying this, I have one word of advice: Collusion \Col*lu"sion\, n. [L. collusio: cf. F. collusion. See {Collude}.] 1. A secret agreement and cooperation for a fraudulent or deceitful purpose; a playing into each other's hands; deceit; fraud; cunning. -- Richard A Steenbergen <ras@e-gerbil.net> http://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)
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