Is there anyone who has successfully gotten DSL for out of band back channel into the MAE-East building? We're being told it's impossible, and somehow this strikes me as somewhat improbable... Thanks. -george william herbert gherbert@retro.com
On Sep 25, 2008, at 5:31 PM, George William Herbert wrote:
Is there anyone who has successfully gotten DSL for out of band back channel into the MAE-East building?
We're being told it's impossible, and somehow this strikes me as somewhat improbable...
We're looking to do the same at Telx in NYC (60 Hudson - 9th floor). The folks at Telx that I've spoken to about it have been confused at best.
Check out http://www.wiredskies.com/CoLo-EVDO_ep_117.html It's a neat solution where for less then DSL you can get out of band over evdo to all your console ports/ethernet, and it also gives you a POTS line over the evdo. I commented on how this was needed for years and Chris Cook over there actually went out and built this neat box. I believe it runs about $35-40 MRC and it's a much quicker way to upload new code then a pots line. Neat part is if it works you do not pay the carrier hotel a cross connect MRC fee. That adds up rapidly. David On Sep 25, 2008, at 5:52 PM, Drew Linsalata wrote:
On Sep 25, 2008, at 5:31 PM, George William Herbert wrote:
Is there anyone who has successfully gotten DSL for out of band back channel into the MAE-East building?
We're being told it's impossible, and somehow this strikes me as somewhat improbable...
We're looking to do the same at Telx in NYC (60 Hudson - 9th floor). The folks at Telx that I've spoken to about it have been confused at best.
Why would it not be better to get an Ethernet cross-connect to someone in the facility who might be willing to charge you "DSL prices" for that kind of usage? (you'll pay for a cross-connect anyway) Matthew Kaufman (Sent from my iPhone) On Sep 25, 2008, at 2:31 PM, George William Herbert <gherbert@retro.com> wrote:
Is there anyone who has successfully gotten DSL for out of band back channel into the MAE-East building?
We're being told it's impossible, and somehow this strikes me as somewhat improbable...
Thanks.
-george william herbert gherbert@retro.com
Or get an ISR with a 3G GSM card? On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Matthew Kaufman <matthew@eeph.com> wrote:
Why would it not be better to get an Ethernet cross-connect to someone in the facility who might be willing to charge you "DSL prices" for that kind of usage? (you'll pay for a cross-connect anyway)
Matthew Kaufman
(Sent from my iPhone)
On Sep 25, 2008, at 2:31 PM, George William Herbert <gherbert@retro.com> wrote:
Is there anyone who has successfully gotten DSL for out of band back channel into the MAE-East building?
We're being told it's impossible, and somehow this strikes me as somewhat improbable...
Thanks.
-george william herbert gherbert@retro.com
On 9/25/08, Mike Lyon <mike.lyon@gmail.com> wrote:
Or get an ISR with a 3G GSM card?
I'm a fan of this solution. We use T-Mobile with EDGE cards (not 3G, but I don't need 3G for SSH, RDP, etc) in several of our colocation environments for remote access. At $30/month for the service (per card), it was way cheaper than a cross-connect and DSL service. Also fairly reliable. -brandon
ISR? Joe McGuckin ViaNet Communications joe@via.net 650-207-0372 cell 650-213-1302 office 650-969-2124 fax On Sep 25, 2008, at 3:36 PM, Brandon Galbraith wrote:
On 9/25/08, Mike Lyon <mike.lyon@gmail.com> wrote:
Or get an ISR with a 3G GSM card?
I'm a fan of this solution. We use T-Mobile with EDGE cards (not 3G, but I don't need 3G for SSH, RDP, etc) in several of our colocation environments for remote access. At $30/month for the service (per card), it was way cheaper than a cross-connect and DSL service. Also fairly reliable.
-brandon
I thought of that too right after I hit send... But I don't see many scenarios where that is any better Matthew Kaufman (Sent from my iPhone) On Sep 25, 2008, at 3:32 PM, "Mike Lyon" <mike.lyon@gmail.com> wrote:
Or get an ISR with a 3G GSM card?
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Matthew Kaufman <matthew@eeph.com> wrote:
Why would it not be better to get an Ethernet cross-connect to someone in the facility who might be willing to charge you "DSL prices" for that kind of usage? (you'll pay for a cross-connect anyway)
Matthew Kaufman
(Sent from my iPhone)
On Sep 25, 2008, at 2:31 PM, George William Herbert <gherbert@retro.com
wrote:
Is there anyone who has successfully gotten DSL for out of band back channel into the MAE-East building?
We're being told it's impossible, and somehow this strikes me as somewhat improbable...
Thanks.
-george william herbert gherbert@retro.com
Matthew:
Mike Lyon:
Matthew:
George:
Is there anyone who has successfully gotten DSL for out of band back
Why would it not be better to get an Ethernet cross-connect to
Or get an ISR with a 3G GSM card?
I thought of that too right after I hit send... But I don't see many scenarios where that is any better
Somewhat less likely to have common mode (backhoe, etc) failures if it's DSL (or a 3G GSM or so forth). We had a two-provider common mode failure at another site, and I've had several in the past at other clients, one of which made it onto CNN... So I now try to provision something more resistant to that. Note "resistant" not proof - I've also had enough "got groomed together" failures including the uplinks for DSL providers and cell providers to believe that these are truly guaranteed independent. But we're trying to do an acceptably reliably separated choice without going to Iridium or Hughesnet. -george william herbert gherbert@retro.com
For an absolute base model, you could get the Cisco ISR 881. On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 3:35 PM, George William Herbert <gherbert@retro.com> wrote:
Matthew:
Mike Lyon:
Matthew:
George:
Is there anyone who has successfully gotten DSL for out of band back
Why would it not be better to get an Ethernet cross-connect to
Or get an ISR with a 3G GSM card?
I thought of that too right after I hit send... But I don't see many scenarios where that is any better
Somewhat less likely to have common mode (backhoe, etc) failures if it's DSL (or a 3G GSM or so forth).
We had a two-provider common mode failure at another site, and I've had several in the past at other clients, one of which made it onto CNN... So I now try to provision something more resistant to that.
Note "resistant" not proof - I've also had enough "got groomed together" failures including the uplinks for DSL providers and cell providers to believe that these are truly guaranteed independent. But we're trying to do an acceptably reliably separated choice without going to Iridium or Hughesnet.
-george william herbert gherbert@retro.com
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