I think it was the new MG F, where if you had the top down on the car and there was moisture on the boot [trunk] when you opened the boot [trunk] people in the car would get showered! They fixed it by adding a tighter spring so that the boot [trunk] opened slowly and the water dripped down the sides slowly! The biggest design flaw that really used to drive me nuts was with AS5300 cards and the fact you needed some special tool to pull them out. Also the good old cbus complex error when doing anything on a 7500 router, and the chopping up of memory when adding subinterfaces on ATM PA card. Another great one was in the early days of Demon, BT would only present telephone lines if they where terminated via their normal domestic wall socket, so at Demon there was like 200 odd wall sockets with phone connectors to the back of total control boxes. Talk a about a cable management nightmare, as well as dimensioning the network based upon wall size! Regards, Neil.