Power outage in North East
Has anyone heard of a big Power outage in the North east? I just got a call from one of my tech's in the GBLX bldg in Newark, NJ at 1085 raymond and they are telling him that they lost power! But I also got a call from AT&T in NY that they also lost Power! ---------------------------------------------- Joel Perez <jperez@ntera.net> | IP Engineer http://www.ntera.net/ | Ntera 305.914.3412
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 04:23:37PM -0400, jperez@numind.net said:
Has anyone heard of a big Power outage in the North east?
I just got a call from one of my tech's in the GBLX bldg in Newark, NJ at 1085 raymond and they are telling him that they lost power!
But I also got a call from AT&T in NY that they also lost Power!
http://www.newsday.com/ny-outage0814,0,7193237.story?coll=ny-top-span-headli... Fox News on generator power, JFK, La Guardia, City Hall, etc. etc. all offline. Rumor is a ConEdison plant is on fire (CNN?) (IRC makes for a great first response news service, but the stories are wrong as often as not, and always vague. I guess some form of early warning is better than nothing ...) -- Scott Francis || darkuncle (at) darkuncle (dot) net illum oportet crescere me autem minui
Thus spake Joel Perez (jperez@numind.net) [14/08/03 16:27]:
Has anyone heard of a big Power outage in the North east? I just got a call from one of my tech's in the GBLX bldg in Newark, NJ at 1085 raymond and they are telling him that they lost power! But I also got a call from AT&T in NY that they also lost Power!
It looks like a rather large power outage -- we're in South Western Ontario, Canada, and power is out in Waterloo, Cambridge, Guelph, Hespler, and (I'm pretty sure) London as well. Can't say about Toronto. - Damian
We are in Toronto, out all over the city. Dan. Damian Gerow wrote:
Thus spake Joel Perez (jperez@numind.net) [14/08/03 16:27]:
Has anyone heard of a big Power outage in the North east? I just got a call from one of my tech's in the GBLX bldg in Newark, NJ at 1085 raymond and they are telling him that they lost power! But I also got a call from AT&T in NY that they also lost Power!
It looks like a rather large power outage -- we're in South Western Ontario, Canada, and power is out in Waterloo, Cambridge, Guelph, Hespler, and (I'm pretty sure) London as well. Can't say about Toronto.
- Damian
I just got off the phone with an old boss of mine. ;-) It would appear that there is a large fire at a ConEd plant that has now caused a cascading power outage in the Northeast. Some more plants may have tripped offline because of the load they absorbed from the loss of the other plant. If I get more information, I'll post. Damian Gerow wrote:
Thus spake Joel Perez (jperez@numind.net) [14/08/03 16:27]:
Has anyone heard of a big Power outage in the North east? I just got a call from one of my tech's in the GBLX bldg in Newark, NJ at 1085 raymond and they are telling him that they lost power! But I also got a call from AT&T in NY that they also lost Power!
It looks like a rather large power outage -- we're in South Western Ontario, Canada, and power is out in Waterloo, Cambridge, Guelph, Hespler, and (I'm pretty sure) London as well. Can't say about Toronto.
- Damian
Actually, Mayor Blumberg just told CNN that the smoke being seen at the ConEd plant is normal for this situation. It is also being reported that this whole thing started in Ottawa, or an overload of the Niagra-Mowhak power grid. On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, N. Richard Solis wrote:
I just got off the phone with an old boss of mine. ;-) It would appear that there is a large fire at a ConEd plant that has now caused a cascading power outage in the Northeast. Some more plants may have tripped offline because of the load they absorbed from the loss of the other plant.
If I get more information, I'll post.
Damian Gerow wrote:
Thus spake Joel Perez (jperez@numind.net) [14/08/03 16:27]:
Has anyone heard of a big Power outage in the North east? I just got a call from one of my tech's in the GBLX bldg in Newark, NJ at 1085 raymond and they are telling him that they lost power! But I also got a call from AT&T in NY that they also lost Power!
It looks like a rather large power outage -- we're in South Western Ontario, Canada, and power is out in Waterloo, Cambridge, Guelph, Hespler, and (I'm pretty sure) London as well. Can't say about Toronto.
- Damian
James Smallacombe PlantageNet, Inc. CEO and Janitor up@3.am http://3.am =========================================================================
Actually, Mayor Blumberg just told CNN that the smoke being seen at the ConEd plant is normal for this situation. It is also being reported that this whole thing started in Ottawa, or an overload of the Niagra-Mowhak power grid.
and i heard it was a right-wing anti-abortion religious fanatic terrorist action in syracuse. perhaps we should wait for the dust to settle a bit? randy
At 06:24 PM 8/14/2003, Randy Bush wrote:
Actually, Mayor Blumberg just told CNN that the smoke being seen at the ConEd plant is normal for this situation. It is also being reported that this whole thing started in Ottawa, or an overload of the Niagra-Mowhak power grid.
and i heard it was a right-wing anti-abortion religious fanatic terrorist action in syracuse.
perhaps we should wait for the dust to settle a bit?
I think you have a point. I'm seeing now (AP) that some Canadian officials are saying it was caused by a lightning strike at a Niagra power plant.
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 15:24:00 -0700 Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote:
perhaps we should wait for the dust to settle a bit?
but guessing is so much fun... this, from a NERC spokesperson, is about as authoritative as you're likely to get right now. NERC does know their business when it comes to this stuff. "The North American Electric Reliability Council, an industry group responsible for monitoring the integrity of the system, said the power outages were "widespread and appear to be centered around Lake Erie, although they are affecting the entire eastern interconnection." "We do not know the cause at present but will continue to evaluate the situation," said Ellen Vancko, speaking for the council. richard -- Richard Welty rwelty@averillpark.net Averill Park Networking 518-573-7592 Java, PHP, PostgreSQL, Unix, Linux, IP Network Engineering, Security
Despite some news reports, Boston does not seem to be effected by the blackout, nor is MA in general. As I recall, there was some talk earlier this year about connecting the MA grid to the NY area grid - but that talk got stalled. I think people were worried about insufficient connectivity and resources, and getting dragged down by just the kind of scenario we're seeing right now.
N. Richard Solis wrote:
I just got off the phone with an old boss of mine. ;-) It would appear that there is a large fire at a ConEd plant that has now caused a cascading power outage in the Northeast. Some more plants may have tripped offline because of the load they absorbed from the loss of the other plant.
The state power official on CNN has just been saying that ConEd shut itself down automatically after something that happened on the Niagara Mohawk power grid that caused the spikes down across the areas affected. They are saying that the black smoke was normal and it isn't on fire. It is certainly on most of the news channels here in the UK at the moment.. Hope the restoration goes speedily for anyone and everyone here who is directly affected or has friends and family that are..
CNN reports that Toronto is out, also. apl Damian Gerow wrote:
Thus spake Joel Perez (jperez@numind.net) [14/08/03 16:27]:
Has anyone heard of a big Power outage in the North east? I just got a call from one of my tech's in the GBLX bldg in Newark, NJ at 1085 raymond and they are telling him that they lost power! But I also got a call from AT&T in NY that they also lost Power!
It looks like a rather large power outage -- we're in South Western Ontario, Canada, and power is out in Waterloo, Cambridge, Guelph, Hespler, and (I'm pretty sure) London as well. Can't say about Toronto.
- Damian
Cleveland power is out, northern parts of Akron Ohio as well. Geo. -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of Damian Gerow Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 4:31 PM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: Power outage in North East Thus spake Joel Perez (jperez@numind.net) [14/08/03 16:27]:
Has anyone heard of a big Power outage in the North east? I just got a call from one of my tech's in the GBLX bldg in Newark, NJ at 1085 raymond and they are telling him that they lost power! But I also got a call from AT&T in NY that they also lost Power!
It looks like a rather large power outage -- we're in South Western Ontario, Canada, and power is out in Waterloo, Cambridge, Guelph, Hespler, and (I'm pretty sure) London as well. Can't say about Toronto. - Damian
You're looking at a major grid failure all across the NE tier. No telling how long to manually reset all the blown breakers. -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of Geo. Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 16:46 To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: RE: Power outage in North East Cleveland power is out, northern parts of Akron Ohio as well. Geo. -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of Damian Gerow Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 4:31 PM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: Power outage in North East Thus spake Joel Perez (jperez@numind.net) [14/08/03 16:27]:
Has anyone heard of a big Power outage in the North east? I just got a call from one of my tech's in the GBLX bldg in Newark, NJ at 1085 raymond and they are telling him that they lost power! But I also got a call from AT&T in NY that they also lost Power!
It looks like a rather large power outage -- we're in South Western Ontario, Canada, and power is out in Waterloo, Cambridge, Guelph, Hespler, and (I'm pretty sure) London as well. Can't say about Toronto. - Damian
At the moment the power outage encompasses: New York City Boston Philadelphia Detroit Toronto Ottowa and various and sundry smaller cities. Check your local news outlet for more details. Thanks, Adam Debus Linux Certified Professional, Linux Certified Administrator #447641 Network Engineer, ReachONE Internet adam@reachone.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Damian Gerow" <damian@sentex.net> To: <nanog@merit.edu> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 1:30 PM Subject: Re: Power outage in North East
Thus spake Joel Perez (jperez@numind.net) [14/08/03 16:27]:
Has anyone heard of a big Power outage in the North east? I just got a call from one of my tech's in the GBLX bldg in Newark, NJ at 1085 raymond and they are telling him that they lost power! But I also got a call from AT&T in NY that they also lost Power!
It looks like a rather large power outage -- we're in South Western
Ontario,
Canada, and power is out in Waterloo, Cambridge, Guelph, Hespler, and (I'm pretty sure) London as well. Can't say about Toronto.
- Damian
Philly has not been affected by this (yet), nor have I heard anything about Boston. On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, Adam Debus wrote:
At the moment the power outage encompasses:
New York City Boston Philadelphia Detroit Toronto Ottowa
and various and sundry smaller cities.
Check your local news outlet for more details.
Thanks,
Adam Debus Linux Certified Professional, Linux Certified Administrator #447641 Network Engineer, ReachONE Internet adam@reachone.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Damian Gerow" <damian@sentex.net> To: <nanog@merit.edu> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 1:30 PM Subject: Re: Power outage in North East
Thus spake Joel Perez (jperez@numind.net) [14/08/03 16:27]:
Has anyone heard of a big Power outage in the North east? I just got a call from one of my tech's in the GBLX bldg in Newark, NJ at 1085 raymond and they are telling him that they lost power! But I also got a call from AT&T in NY that they also lost Power!
It looks like a rather large power outage -- we're in South Western
Ontario,
Canada, and power is out in Waterloo, Cambridge, Guelph, Hespler, and (I'm pretty sure) London as well. Can't say about Toronto.
- Damian
James Smallacombe PlantageNet, Inc. CEO and Janitor up@3.am http://3.am =========================================================================
From MSNBC: Other affected cities included Buffalo, Albany and Syracuse, N.Y.; Hartford, Conn.; Lansing and many other smaller cities in Michigan; Akron and Toledo, Ohio; and Ottawa and Montreal in Ontario. Washington and the federal government were not affected Neither were much of New England including all of Massachusetts, Rhode Island and New Hampshire, southern Vermont and eastern Connecticut and other areas of Canada, including Quebec City. On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, Adam Debus wrote:
At the moment the power outage encompasses:
New York City Boston Philadelphia Detroit Toronto Ottowa
and various and sundry smaller cities.
Check your local news outlet for more details.
Thanks,
Adam Debus Linux Certified Professional, Linux Certified Administrator #447641 Network Engineer, ReachONE Internet adam@reachone.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Damian Gerow" <damian@sentex.net> To: <nanog@merit.edu> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 1:30 PM Subject: Re: Power outage in North East
Thus spake Joel Perez (jperez@numind.net) [14/08/03 16:27]:
Has anyone heard of a big Power outage in the North east? I just got a call from one of my tech's in the GBLX bldg in Newark, NJ at 1085 raymond and they are telling him that they lost power! But I also got a call from AT&T in NY that they also lost Power!
It looks like a rather large power outage -- we're in South Western
Ontario,
Canada, and power is out in Waterloo, Cambridge, Guelph, Hespler, and (I'm pretty sure) London as well. Can't say about Toronto.
- Damian
-- /ak
| From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of | Alex Kamantauskas | Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 5:53 PM | To: nanog@merit.edu | Subject: Re: Power outage in North East | | From MSNBC: | | Other affected cities included Buffalo, Albany and Syracuse, N.Y.; | Hartford, Conn.; Lansing and many other smaller cities in Michigan; Akron | and Toledo, Ohio; and Ottawa and Montreal in Ontario. | | Washington and the federal government were not affected Neither were much | of New England - including all of Massachusetts, Rhode Island and New | Hampshire, southern Vermont and eastern Connecticut - and other areas of | Canada, including Quebec City. Correction to the above snippet. Montreal & Quebec City (Province of Quebec; not Ontario as stated above) are on a separate power grid and thus not affected by this outage. Todd -- | | On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, Adam Debus wrote: | | > | > At the moment the power outage encompasses: | > | > New York City | > Boston | > Philadelphia | > Detroit | > Toronto | > Ottowa | > | > and various and sundry smaller cities. | > | > Check your local news outlet for more details. | > | > Thanks, | > | > Adam Debus | > Linux Certified Professional, Linux Certified Administrator #447641 | > Network Engineer, ReachONE Internet | > adam@reachone.com | > ----- Original Message ----- | > From: "Damian Gerow" <damian@sentex.net> | > To: <nanog@merit.edu> | > Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 1:30 PM | > Subject: Re: Power outage in North East | > | > | > > | > > Thus spake Joel Perez (jperez@numind.net) [14/08/03 16:27]: | > > > Has anyone heard of a big Power outage in the North east? | > > > I just got a call from one of my tech's in the GBLX bldg in Newark, | NJ | > > > at 1085 raymond and they are telling him that they lost power! | > > > But I also got a call from AT&T in NY that they also lost Power! | > > | > > It looks like a rather large power outage -- we're in South Western | > Ontario, | > > Canada, and power is out in Waterloo, Cambridge, Guelph, Hespler, and | (I'm | > > pretty sure) London as well. Can't say about Toronto. | > > | > > - Damian | > > | > | | | -- | /ak
Other affected cities included Buffalo, Albany and Syracuse, N.Y.; Hartford, Conn.; Lansing and many other smaller cities in Michigan; Akron and Toledo, Ohio; and Ottawa and Montreal in Ontario.
Washington and the federal government were not affected Neither were much of New England - including all of Massachusetts, Rhode Island and New Hampshire, southern Vermont and eastern Connecticut - and other areas of Canada, including Quebec City.
Correction to the above snippet. Montreal & Quebec City (Province of Quebec; not Ontario as stated above) are on a separate power grid and thus not affected by this outage.
Right.. that's what it said: "...were not affected. Neither were...other areas of Canada, including Quebec City" :) -- /ak
| >> Other affected cities included Buffalo, Albany and Syracuse, N.Y.; | >> Hartford, Conn.; Lansing and many other smaller cities in Michigan; | >> Akron and Toledo, Ohio; and Ottawa and Montreal in Ontario. | >> | >> Washington and the federal government were not affected Neither were | >> much of New England - including all of Massachusetts, Rhode Island and | >> New Hampshire, southern Vermont and eastern Connecticut - and other | >> areas of Canada, including Quebec City. | > | > Correction to the above snippet. Montreal & Quebec City (Province of | > Quebec; not Ontario as stated above) are on a separate power grid and | > thus not affected by this outage. | > | | Right.. that's what it said: | | "...were not affected. Neither were...other areas of Canada, including | Quebec City" I was mostly going after Montreal being offline (which it is not) and Montreal changing provinces for this story. | >> Other affected cities included Buffalo, Albany and Syracuse, N.Y.;.... | >> Ottawa and Montreal in Ontario. Todd --
Add Cleveland & surrounding NE Ohio to the list. Word has it that much of the Great Lakes area is beginning to power up starting from west to east. On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, Alex Kamantauskas wrote:
Other affected cities included Buffalo, Albany and Syracuse, N.Y.; Hartford, Conn.; Lansing and many other smaller cities in Michigan; Akron and Toledo, Ohio; and Ottawa and Montreal in Ontario.
At the moment the power outage encompasses:
New York City Boston Philadelphia Detroit Toronto Ottowa
-- _ __ __ ___ _| | William R. Lorenz <wrl@express.org> \ V V / '_| | http://www.clevelandlug.net/ ; "Every revolution was \./\./|_| |_| first a thought in one man's mind." - Ralph Waldo Emerson
I just spoke to my Dad who was up at the Glass House ,"Ford Headquarters" in Detroit, He was on his way home and said that he has seen 2 lights while driving through Toledo. From what he was told leaving Detroit - was power would not be restored till 4-6AM and possibly later tomorrow. So far our Toledo hub has not come back up. ------------------------------------------------------------ (_ ) Jason Houx, CCNA <coldiso@bright.net> \\\'',) ^ Com.net Inc. \/ \( Bright.net Network Operations .\._/_) OpenBSD Unix - live free or DIE! ------------------------------------------------------------ On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, William R. Lorenz wrote:
Add Cleveland & surrounding NE Ohio to the list. Word has it that much of the Great Lakes area is beginning to power up starting from west to east.
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, Alex Kamantauskas wrote:
Other affected cities included Buffalo, Albany and Syracuse, N.Y.; Hartford, Conn.; Lansing and many other smaller cities in Michigan; Akron and Toledo, Ohio; and Ottawa and Montreal in Ontario.
At the moment the power outage encompasses:
New York City Boston Philadelphia Detroit Toronto Ottowa
-- _ __ __ ___ _| | William R. Lorenz <wrl@express.org> \ V V / '_| | http://www.clevelandlug.net/ ; "Every revolution was \./\./|_| |_| first a thought in one man's mind." - Ralph Waldo Emerson
CNN has mentioned several times the theory that the Blaster worm potentially had something to do with this. No joke.
-----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of Adam Debus Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 4:52 PM To: Damian Gerow; nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: Power outage in North East
At the moment the power outage encompasses:
New York City Boston Philadelphia Detroit Toronto Ottowa
and various and sundry smaller cities.
Check your local news outlet for more details.
Thanks,
Adam Debus Linux Certified Professional, Linux Certified Administrator #447641 Network Engineer, ReachONE Internet adam@reachone.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Damian Gerow" <damian@sentex.net> To: <nanog@merit.edu> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 1:30 PM Subject: Re: Power outage in North East
Thus spake Joel Perez (jperez@numind.net) [14/08/03 16:27]:
Has anyone heard of a big Power outage in the North east? I just got a call from one of my tech's in the GBLX bldg
in Newark,
NJ at 1085 raymond and they are telling him that they lost power! But I also got a call from AT&T in NY that they also lost Power!
It looks like a rather large power outage -- we're in South Western Ontario, Canada, and power is out in Waterloo, Cambridge, Guelph, Hespler, and (I'm pretty sure) London as well. Can't say about Toronto.
- Damian
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 16:30:49 -0400 Damian Gerow <damian@sentex.net> wrote:
Thus spake Joel Perez (jperez@numind.net) [14/08/03 16:27]:
Has anyone heard of a big Power outage in the North east? I just got a call from one of my tech's in the GBLX bldg in Newark, NJ at 1085 raymond and they are telling him that they lost power! But I also got a call from AT&T in NY that they also lost Power!
It looks like a rather large power outage -- we're in South Western Ontario, Canada, and power is out in Waterloo, Cambridge, Guelph, Hespler, and (I'm pretty sure) London as well. Can't say about Toronto.
latest word (on cnn.com) is that the niagara-mohawk grid (upstate NY and parts of canada) overloaded and went down. i lost power here twice over a period of about 15 minutes (here being on NYSEG, east of Albany NY, which is joined to Ni-Mo at the hip.) it's back up, but i suspect it'll be shaky for a while. all the burning transformers, etc., are all probably side effects of the major power outage. richard -- Richard Welty rwelty@averillpark.net Averill Park Networking 518-573-7592 Java, PHP, PostgreSQL, Unix, Linux, IP Network Engineering, Security
On Thursday 14 August 2003 04:23 pm, Joel Perez wrote:
Has anyone heard of a big Power outage in the North east? I just got a call from one of my tech's in the GBLX bldg in Newark, NJ at 1085 raymond and they are telling him that they lost power! But I also got a call from AT&T in NY that they also lost Power!
Power is flakier then all heck here in Albany, NY. Outages / major brown outs. We are running on Generator here since it is way cleaner power at the moment. -- Patrick Muldoon Network/Software Engineer INOC (http://www.inoc.net) PGPKEY (http://www.inoc.net/~doon) Key fingerprint = 8F70 6306 F0A7 B8DA BA95 76C4 606A 7DC1 370D 752C I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere.
Has anyone heard of a big Power outage in the North east? I just got a call from one of my tech's in the GBLX bldg in Newark, NJ at 1085 raymond and they are telling him that they lost power! But I also got a call from AT&T in NY that they also lost Power!
Massive outages all over Philadelphia, PA, including 401 North Broad Alex
y ---------------------------------------------- Joel Perez <jperez@ntera.net> | IP Engineer http://www.ntera.net/ | Ntera 305.914.3412
Joel Perez writes:
Has anyone heard of a big Power outage in the North east? I just got a call from one of my tech's in the GBLX bldg in Newark, NJ at 1085 raymond and they are telling him that they lost power! But I also got a call from AT&T in NY that they also lost Power!
CNN is reporting a sizable power outage affecting New York City, Boston, Cleveland, Detroit, Toronto, and Ottawa. The subways have stopped in Manhattan and folks are walking in the streets. A transformer is on fire on 14th street. I just spoke on the phone with a friend in Ann Arbor, and he confirmed the complete power outage there. Jim == Jim Duncan, Critical Infrastructure Assurance Group, Cisco Systems, Inc. jnduncan@cisco.com, +1 919 392 6209, http://www.cisco.com/go/ciag/. PGP: DSS 4096/1024 E09E EA55 DA28 1399 75EB D6A2 7092 9A9C 6DC3 1821
Sounds huge and probably bigger than just a single plant. Watching the MSNBC/CNN feeds in the NOC shows everyone filing out of NYC on foot b/c of lack of subway and traffic-light-induced gridlock. The primary affect we've seen so far is the drop off in customer traffic based on CPE being offline. No real hit to infrastructure yet. Joel Perez wrote:
Has anyone heard of a big Power outage in the North east?
I just got a call from one of my tech’s in the GBLX bldg in Newark, NJ at 1085 raymond and they are telling him that they lost power!
But I also got a call from AT&T in NY that they also lost Power!
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Anyone been able to verify the reports of the ConEd fire? The helicopter coverage I saw on MSNBC in the NOC did not seem to show signs of any fire. Joel Perez wrote:
Has anyone heard of a big Power outage in the North east?
I just got a call from one of my tech’s in the GBLX bldg in Newark, NJ at 1085 raymond and they are telling him that they lost power!
But I also got a call from AT&T in NY that they also lost Power!
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