Shaw routing issue 12 Aug 2014
Hi Nanog, anyone know what's up with a nationwide (Canadian) routing issue on Shaw? http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/08/12/nationwide_outage_at_canadian_isp_sh... https://community.shaw.ca/docs/DOC-3455 thanks Leah
Maybe related to the 512k route issue? http://www.bgpmon.net/what-caused-todays-internet-hiccup/ I've seen people reboot to recover from TCAM exception without adjusting TCAM size only to run into the issue all over again. It's a fun way to watch the problems roll around the network. On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Leah Ungstad <leah.ungstad@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Nanog, anyone know what's up with a nationwide (Canadian) routing issue on Shaw?
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/08/12/nationwide_outage_at_canadian_isp_sh... https://community.shaw.ca/docs/DOC-3455
thanks Leah
Outside looking in, but we did get a maintenance notice from Shaw in June for "Core Router reboot to resolve fully utilized IPv4 table"; let's hope for their sake they recarved TCAM while they're at it and that they don't have too many of those hiding around the network. -- Hugo On Wed 2014-Aug-13 11:08:55 -0400, Pete Lumbis <alumbis@gmail.com> wrote:
Maybe related to the 512k route issue? http://www.bgpmon.net/what-caused-todays-internet-hiccup/
I've seen people reboot to recover from TCAM exception without adjusting TCAM size only to run into the issue all over again. It's a fun way to watch the problems roll around the network.
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Leah Ungstad <leah.ungstad@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Nanog, anyone know what's up with a nationwide (Canadian) routing issue on Shaw?
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/08/12/nationwide_outage_at_canadian_isp_sh... https://community.shaw.ca/docs/DOC-3455
thanks Leah
Pete Lumbis <alumbis@gmail.com> writes:
Maybe related to the 512k route issue? http://www.bgpmon.net/what-caused-todays-internet-hiccup/
I've seen people reboot to recover from TCAM exception without adjusting TCAM size only to run into the issue all over again. It's a fun way to watch the problems roll around the network.
In this case, it would probably have "helped" in the same way as rebooting or waving a rubber chicken or whatever sometimes "helps": the route issue was caused initially by a problem at Verizon that caused them to deaggregate, which they fixed, so by the time someone had identified the problem, paged someone, gotten them to the data center, had a teleconference, rebooted the device, waited for it to come back up... Verizon would have fixed it, so when it came back up it'd be back under 512k again.
Yep. Most of the time I've seen this it's two data centers, both go TCAM exception. You reboot DC1, when it comes back up you reboot DC2. This means no iBGP learned routes so DC1 is fine. DC 2 is fine, until the iBGP peer comes back and then start all over again. On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 6:06 PM, Geoffrey Keating <geoffk@geoffk.org> wrote:
Pete Lumbis <alumbis@gmail.com> writes:
Maybe related to the 512k route issue? http://www.bgpmon.net/what-caused-todays-internet-hiccup/
I've seen people reboot to recover from TCAM exception without adjusting TCAM size only to run into the issue all over again. It's a fun way to watch the problems roll around the network.
In this case, it would probably have "helped" in the same way as rebooting or waving a rubber chicken or whatever sometimes "helps": the route issue was caused initially by a problem at Verizon that caused them to deaggregate, which they fixed, so by the time someone had identified the problem, paged someone, gotten them to the data center, had a teleconference, rebooted the device, waited for it to come back up... Verizon would have fixed it, so when it came back up it'd be back under 512k again.
Thanks for the info Pete, Geoffrey & Hugo! LU On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 6:07 PM, Pete Lumbis <alumbis@gmail.com> wrote:
Yep. Most of the time I've seen this it's two data centers, both go TCAM exception. You reboot DC1, when it comes back up you reboot DC2. This means no iBGP learned routes so DC1 is fine. DC 2 is fine, until the iBGP peer comes back and then start all over again.
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 6:06 PM, Geoffrey Keating <geoffk@geoffk.org> wrote:
Pete Lumbis <alumbis@gmail.com> writes:
Maybe related to the 512k route issue? http://www.bgpmon.net/what-caused-todays-internet-hiccup/
I've seen people reboot to recover from TCAM exception without adjusting TCAM size only to run into the issue all over again. It's a fun way to watch the problems roll around the network.
In this case, it would probably have "helped" in the same way as rebooting or waving a rubber chicken or whatever sometimes "helps": the route issue was caused initially by a problem at Verizon that caused them to deaggregate, which they fixed, so by the time someone had identified the problem, paged someone, gotten them to the data center, had a teleconference, rebooted the device, waited for it to come back up... Verizon would have fixed it, so when it came back up it'd be back under 512k again.
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Geoffrey Keating
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Hugo Slabbert
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Leah Ungstad
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Pete Lumbis