Hi, Does anyone know of any Shaping appliances to shape customers based on IP, allow for a quota per IP and qos mechanisms like LLQ?, This is should be something that can sit in between two border router's and support a small ISP (20000 customers), also an opensource solution would be great! Regards, Bruce
Check Ipoque solutions. http://www.ipoque.com/ regards, --- Nuno Vieira nfsi telecom, lda. nuno.vieira@nfsi.pt Tel. (+351) 21 949 2300 - Fax (+351) 21 949 2301 http://www.nfsi.pt/ ----- "Bruce Grobler" <bruce@yoafrica.com> wrote:
Hi,
Does anyone know of any Shaping appliances to shape customers based on IP, allow for a quota per IP and qos mechanisms like LLQ?, This is should be something that can sit in between two border router's and support a small ISP (20000 customers), also an opensource solution would be great!
Regards,
Bruce
Take a look here: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps6151/index.html Arie On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 7:33 AM, Bruce Grobler <bruce@yoafrica.com> wrote:
Hi,
Does anyone know of any Shaping appliances to shape customers based on IP, allow for a quota per IP and qos mechanisms like LLQ?, This is should be something that can sit in between two border router's and support a small ISP (20000 customers), also an opensource solution would be great!
Regards,
Bruce
Check out Packeteer. I used to work somewhere about that size and this was the product we used: http://www.bluecoat.com/products/packetshaper/ Open source you can do a custom setup with IPTables and iproute2, but it will take some work to get the same kind of features and management interface. LARTC is a good reference for this kind of topic: http://lartc.org/. Also I'm not sure if someone has built this into any of the firewall specific linux distros yet, so you may want to explore those a little. Good luck, -Scott -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Grobler [mailto:bruce@yoafrica.com] Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 12:34 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Shaping on a large scale Hi, Does anyone know of any Shaping appliances to shape customers based on IP, allow for a quota per IP and qos mechanisms like LLQ?, This is should be something that can sit in between two border router's and support a small ISP (20000 customers), also an opensource solution would be great! Regards, Bruce
Bruce, Are these broadband customer using PPPoE or L2TP? If so, I suggest looking at the capabilities of your BRAS to do the work. Per user bandwidth quotas are the nature of the game here in Australia and doing it at the BRAS is the way we do it. RADIUS gives you byte counts and gives you the ability to pass back rate limits etc. MMC On 30/01/2009, at 4:03 PM, Bruce Grobler wrote:
Hi,
Does anyone know of any Shaping appliances to shape customers based on IP, allow for a quota per IP and qos mechanisms like LLQ?, This is should be something that can sit in between two border router's and support a small ISP (20000 customers), also an opensource solution would be great!
Regards,
Bruce
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On Sat, Jan 31, 2009, Matthew Moyle-Croft wrote:
Bruce, Are these broadband customer using PPPoE or L2TP? If so, I suggest looking at the capabilities of your BRAS to do the work.
Per user bandwidth quotas are the nature of the game here in Australia and doing it at the BRAS is the way we do it. RADIUS gives you byte counts and gives you the ability to pass back rate limits etc.
What you didn't tell him is that the kind of shaping you can do on the BRAS heavily depends on features used and platform. :) 64k policing mostly works everywhere, for example, but isn't all that crash hot for your clients. :) Doing more complicated hierarchical QoS on software platforms is doable but complicated. Others take a multi-tiered approach - they'll buy some kit to do P2P identification/shaping, and per-user hard shaping in case they go over quota. Lots of cute stuff. :) Adrian
MMC
On 30/01/2009, at 4:03 PM, Bruce Grobler wrote:
Hi,
Does anyone know of any Shaping appliances to shape customers based on IP, allow for a quota per IP and qos mechanisms like LLQ?, This is should be something that can sit in between two border router's and support a small ISP (20000 customers), also an opensource solution would be great!
Regards,
Bruce
-- Matthew Moyle-Croft Internode/Agile Peering and Core Networks Level 5, 162 Grenfell Street, Adelaide, SA 5000 Australia Email: mmc@internode.com.au Web: http://www.on.net Direct: +61-8-8228-2909 Mobile: +61-419-900-366 Reception: +61-8-8228-2999 Fax: +61-8-8235-6909
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Besides the other solutions listed, you can also take a look at Arbor (formerly Ellacoya) and Sandvine. Rubens On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 3:33 AM, Bruce Grobler <bruce@yoafrica.com> wrote:
Hi,
Does anyone know of any Shaping appliances to shape customers based on IP, allow for a quota per IP and qos mechanisms like LLQ?, This is should be something that can sit in between two border router's and support a small ISP (20000 customers), also an opensource solution would be great!
Regards,
Bruce
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Adrian Chadd -
Arie Vayner -
Bruce Grobler -
Matthew Moyle-Croft -
Nuno Vieira - nfsi telecom -
Rubens Kuhl -
Scott Berkman