Re: How to document threats from pro or anti spam terrorists?
At 12:57 PM 2/23/98 -0500, Barry Shein wrote:
There really are two terrorist groups here. Spammers and nti-Spammers.
That's like saying people defending their properties are as bad as people they're defending against, that's moral confusion.
When an 'anti-spammer' compromises net access for a group of people as a response to percieved "net abuse" on the part of a single member of that group, that's a denial of service. The phrase 'using violence to prevent violence' comes to mind. (I wouldn't say that my government uses 'moral confusion' to justify it's practices, but ... ;) ------ This *is* an important, and troubling subject ... ... but it's my intuition that nanog might not be the place for this particular debate. (suggestions for a more appropriate forum?) cheers -- Sean
On Mon, Feb 23, 1998 at 10:38:42AM -0800, Sean Finn wrote:
When an 'anti-spammer' compromises net access for a group of people as a response to percieved "net abuse" on the part of a single member of that group, that's a denial of service.
The phrase 'using violence to prevent violence' comes to mind.
(I wouldn't say that my government uses 'moral confusion' to justify it's practices, but ... ;)
Examples, please? Off the list, in private e-mail to me, because this isn't really applicable to nanog. I'd be interested in hearing your examples.
... but it's my intuition that nanog might not be the place for this particular debate.
ditto.
(suggestions for a more appropriate forum?)
spam-l, maybe? ***steve scribbles notes to himself to subscribe to that list*** -- Steve Sobol, NACS.NET Technical Support [http://www.nacs.net/support] sjsobol@nacs.net/sjsobol@nstc.com/sjsobol@apk.net Moderator, alt.religion.afterburner [http://antispam.nstc.com/ara] SPAM(tm) belongs in a can, not on a mail server.
On Mon, Feb 23, 1998 at 10:38:42AM -0800, Sean Finn wrote:
This *is* an important, and troubling subject ...
... but it's my intuition that nanog might not be the place for this particular debate.
(suggestions for a more appropriate forum?)
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