----- Original Message ----- From: "Suresh Ramasubramanian" <suresh@outblaze.com> To: "Gregh" <chows@ozemail.com.au> Cc: <nanog@merit.edu> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 2:06 PM Subject: Re: Spam handling
Gregh writes on 4/29/2004 9:27 AM:
A guide to how to be spammed.
1) Click on most spam emails to let them know your address is to be spammed.
2) Failing that in 1, click on a "remove me" so they know you are still around.
Folks, you are missing something here. He was trying to write to SBC at an address they asked him to write to, and that address bounced when he emailed it.
He's not doing what you think he's doing.
With all respect, he has replied to a remove me. Then he is saying the address doesn't exist. I send messages back, routinely, from this address as if my ISP's own mailer daemon had sent them. The address he emailed may WELL exist but it is set up to respond with a standard "User not known" style reply. I wasn't missing anything. What he was missing is as I said before and the above paragraph. The remove me address may exist and all email to it may be kept and read by a spam engine and the FROM address added to the spammer's database BUT the spam engine is set up to send "User Unknown" replies back to everyone. Easy to do with a simple program most people could write. Even Macafee have worked out how to do this. Greg.
Greg, please re-read your email/this thread. There is/was/isn't anything about replying to a SPAM message. At what point do you see any sort of items regarding a reply to a Spam email? sorry for the static, just wanted this to be clear.... Martin hit it on the head, just use a/your larger providers SMTP as a forwarder. no fix, but a way around fer now. Cheers -Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregh" <chows@ozemail.com.au> To: <nanog@merit.edu> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 12:13 AM Subject: Re: Spam handling
----- Original Message ----- From: "Suresh Ramasubramanian" <suresh@outblaze.com> To: "Gregh" <chows@ozemail.com.au> Cc: <nanog@merit.edu> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 2:06 PM Subject: Re: Spam handling
Gregh writes on 4/29/2004 9:27 AM:
A guide to how to be spammed.
1) Click on most spam emails to let them know your address is to be spammed.
2) Failing that in 1, click on a "remove me" so they know you are
still
around.
Folks, you are missing something here. He was trying to write to SBC at an address they asked him to write to, and that address bounced when he emailed it.
He's not doing what you think he's doing.
With all respect, he has replied to a remove me. Then he is saying the address doesn't exist. I send messages back, routinely, from this address as if my ISP's own mailer daemon had sent them. The address he emailed may WELL exist but it is set up to respond with a standard "User not known" style reply.
I wasn't missing anything. What he was missing is as I said before and the above paragraph. The remove me address may exist and all email to it may be kept and read by a spam engine and the FROM address added to the spammer's database BUT the spam engine is set up to send "User Unknown" replies back to everyone. Easy to do with a simple program most people could write. Even Macafee have worked out how to do this.
Greg.
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