Hi, We're looking around for a new colocation provider for aroudn ~100Mbit traffic. (Not much for the average NANOG participant I'm sure, but that's what we've got ... :-) ) Level3 are giving us a pretty good quote; and all their competitors' sales bozos ramble on about how they're "second tier" and bla bla bla. What's the (technical) truth? Does Level3 have decent connectivity (primarily from their colos in the Bay Area and Los Angeles). From what traceroutes and such I can do it looks just fine and Yahoo wouldn't be using them if they sucked that badly, huh? Any gotchas we should be aware of about Level3? FWIW, the other facilities we're looking at are Digital Island and Exodus. Any others that would be recommended? Any insight would be greatly appreciated. If you answer offlist then I can summarize later in the week. (Without your name if you'd prefer that). - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do();
Level3 are giving us a pretty good quote; and all their competitors' sales bozos ramble on about how they're "second tier" and bla bla ^^^^^^^^^^^ *groan*
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On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, E.B. Dreger wrote:
Level3 are giving us a pretty good quote; and all their competitors' sales bozos ramble on about how they're "second tier" and bla bla ^^^^^^^^^^^ *groan*
Not again. [...]
Uh, the whole point was to get information that was more clued than the sales droids mumblings about tiers. I've received a good handful of very clued mails. Thanks a lot; let it keep coming. General consensus is that Level3 is good, Exodus gets good and bad ratings, and several have suggsted that I look at Above.Net. I'll summarize when the mails stop tickling in. - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do();
On Tue, 19 Jun 2001 05:03:10 BST, "E.B. Dreger" said:
Not again. The next time that the t-word comes up on NANOG within a week of an argument about how meaningless it is... I shall have to scream.
I hereby propose that somebody get hold of 3 or 4 trash /24s, and that each of them be attached to one of the alledged tier-1s - and then each Tier-1 be required to pay transit to the other Tier-1's /24s. Even if there's no actual traffic, then EVERYBODY will be paying SOMEBODY for transit, and we can put this crock to rest. ;)
You may want to take a look at the resource www.colosource.com they have an online free directory of over 500 different colocation providers organized by state and area-code. Just an Idea.............. --- Ask Bjoern Hansen <ask@valueclick.com> wrote:
Hi,
We're looking around for a new colocation provider for aroudn ~100Mbit traffic. (Not much for the average NANOG participant I'm sure, but that's what we've got ... :-) )
Level3 are giving us a pretty good quote; and all their competitors' sales bozos ramble on about how they're "second tier" and bla bla bla.
What's the (technical) truth? Does Level3 have decent connectivity (primarily from their colos in the Bay Area and Los Angeles). From what traceroutes and such I can do it looks just fine and Yahoo wouldn't be using them if they sucked that badly, huh?
Any gotchas we should be aware of about Level3?
FWIW, the other facilities we're looking at are Digital Island and Exodus.
Any others that would be recommended?
Any insight would be greatly appreciated. If you answer offlist then I can summarize later in the week. (Without your name if you'd prefer that).
- ask
-- ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do();
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