Hello... I am sure someone up there knows something about 5ESS and portmaster 2. Our local teleco does not seem to know what SPID is. As far as I know according to the livingston manual, I should set up SPID in order to use ISDN.(well actually it is not true for switch type NTT.) I even call the company who sold the 5ESS to the teleco, Lucent Techonologies, Japan, they could not help us all. According a field engineer, he has never heard of it. He looked up the manual, he could not find SPID. Now this bring me to ask someone in this group. 1. What SPID is called in teleco lingo? 2. what switch types are capable with lucent 5ESS? 2.1 why can I find out which switch type we are really getting? 2.3 all I know from the teleco is their telecom "machine" is called 5ESS. 2.4 They believe 5ESS is the switch type but ... 3. what network layer does this SPID setting is used? 3.1 any more info on this SPID on ITU 400s ? 4. Does anyone use portmaster 2 with BRI on 5ESS switch type? 5. Any direct number to lucent Techologies that I could ask some questions about SPID and 5ESS stuff? 6. Any suggestions? sincerely yours, Tatsuya = = = = = = Business Network Telecom (BNT) ビジネスネットワークテレコム株式会社 〒111-0053 東京都台東区浅草橋3-8-5 31山京ビル6階 TEL 03-5687-3945 FAX 03-5687-6009 http://www.giganet.net
Now for the bonus question of the day: Does your Telco support ISDN? Just because they have a 5ESS doesn't mean that they have the line cards to offer BRI service. -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of Tatsuya Kawasaki Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 1998 2:22 AM To: nanog ml Subject: SPID and portmaster 2 BRI. Hello... I am sure someone up there knows something about 5ESS and portmaster 2. Our local teleco does not seem to know what SPID is. As far as I know according to the livingston manual, I should set up SPID in order to use ISDN.(well actually it is not true for switch type NTT.) I even call the company who sold the 5ESS to the teleco, Lucent Techonologies, Japan, they could not help us all. According a field engineer, he has never heard of it. He looked up the manual, he could not find SPID. Now this bring me to ask someone in this group. 1. What SPID is called in teleco lingo? 2. what switch types are capable with lucent 5ESS? 2.1 why can I find out which switch type we are really getting? 2.3 all I know from the teleco is their telecom "machine" is called 5ESS. 2.4 They believe 5ESS is the switch type but ... 3. what network layer does this SPID setting is used? 3.1 any more info on this SPID on ITU 400s ? 4. Does anyone use portmaster 2 with BRI on 5ESS switch type? 5. Any direct number to lucent Techologies that I could ask some questions about SPID and 5ESS stuff? 6. Any suggestions? sincerely yours, Tatsuya = = = = = = Business Network Telecom (BNT) $B%S%8%M%9%M%C%H%o!<%/%F%l%3%`3t<02q<R(B $B")(B111-0053$B!!El5~ETBfEl6h@uAp66(B3-8-5 31$B;35~%S%k(B6$B3,(B TEL 03-5687-3945 FAX 03-5687-6009 http://www.giganet.net
I beleive they do. Well, at least they claim they do AND they tested via cisco, it worked fine. Needless to say, whomever configured cisco, did not need to know SPID. The question to you is that WHY? I attached their configuration. tatsuya かわさき = = = = = = Business Network Telecom (BNT) ビジネスネットワークテレコム株式会社 〒111-0053 東京都台東区浅草橋3-8-5 31山京ビル6階 TEL 03-5687-3945 FAX 03-5687-6009 http://www.giganet.net On Tue, 9 Jun 1998, Derek Elder wrote:
Now for the bonus question of the day: Does your Telco support ISDN? Just because they have a 5ESS doesn't mean that they have the line cards to offer BRI service.
-----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of Tatsuya Kawasaki Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 1998 2:22 AM To: nanog ml Subject: SPID and portmaster 2 BRI.
Hello...
I am sure someone up there knows something about 5ESS and portmaster 2. Our local teleco does not seem to know what SPID is. As far as I know according to the livingston manual, I should set up SPID in order to use ISDN.(well actually it is not true for switch type NTT.) I even call the company who sold the 5ESS to the teleco, Lucent Techonologies, Japan, they could not help us all. According a field engineer, he has never heard of it. He looked up the manual, he could not find SPID.
Now this bring me to ask someone in this group.
1. What SPID is called in teleco lingo? 2. what switch types are capable with lucent 5ESS? 2.1 why can I find out which switch type we are really getting? 2.3 all I know from the teleco is their telecom "machine" is called 5ESS. 2.4 They believe 5ESS is the switch type but ... 3. what network layer does this SPID setting is used? 3.1 any more info on this SPID on ITU 400s ? 4. Does anyone use portmaster 2 with BRI on 5ESS switch type? 5. Any direct number to lucent Techologies that I could ask some questions about SPID and 5ESS stuff? 6. Any suggestions?
sincerely yours,
Tatsuya
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ISDNrouter#show config Using 1121 out of 131066 bytes ! version 11.2 service udp-small-servers service tcp-small-servers ! hostname ISDNrouter ! enable secret 1 $1$Z6KY$/nB01SkGCKZHfXFBbjkK6/ enable password ******** ! ip address-pool local isdn switch-type basic-5ess ! interface Tunnel1 no ip address ! interface Ethernet0 ip address 199.118.140.150 255.255.255.0 media-type 10BaseT no cdp enable ! interface BRI0 no ip address isdn incoming-voice data no cdp enable ! interface BRI1 no ip address shutdown no cdp enable ! interface BRI2 no ip address shutdown no cdp enable ! interface BRI3 no ip address shutdown no cdp enable ! interface Dialer0 no ip address no ip mroute-cache no ip route-cache no cdp enable ! interface Dialer1 ip unnumbered Ethernet0 encapsulation ppp peer default ip address pool default dialer in-band dialer-group 1 no cdp enable ! router rip network 192.6.109.0 network 192.6.9.0 network 192.6.120.0 network 192.6.20.0 ! ip local pool default 199.200.140.150 199.200.140.160 no ip classless no cdp run ! bridge 1 protocol dec ! line con 0 line aux 0 transport input all line vty 0 4 password teleway login ! end
Hi, Here is a brief explanation of SPIDs taken from an email I saved long long ago. Hope it helps... -=fade=- There's not much to it. Simply put, SPIDs identify to the phone company what types of services and features are supported for a given device. SPIDs are optional in the ISDN standard, but usually required in North America. As I said above, SPIDs are usually 12 digit numbers consisting of the area code, 7 digit number and some trailing 0s and/or 1s. For example: 408 555 1212 00). The DN (Direct Number) is simply the "normal" 7 digit phone number. For example: 555 1212. There are three switch types the LS-ISDN and NI2B Dual-BRI card support: AT&T 5ESS, Northern Telecom DMS100 and National ISDN-1 (NI1). If a ISDN service provider is using an AT&T 5ESS with a software revision lower than 5E8, then most likely the 5E can not support NI1. In this case, SPIDs are not required. However, if they have the 5E set-up for NI1, they will tell you to set up your equipment for NI1 and they will provide SPIDs and DNs. Same for the DMS-100...expect that SPIDs and DNs are usually always required for the DMS-100, regardless if the switch is setup for NI1 or DMS-100. A good ISDN home page on the Web is: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/~fine/ISDN/ Also, http://alumni.caltech.edu/~dank/isdn/ Hope this is helpful. Jim Tremolini Senior Systems Engineer Telebit Corporation
On Tue, Jun 09, 1998 at 03:21:55PM +0900, Tatsuya Kawasaki wrote:
Hello...
1. What SPID is called in teleco lingo?
SPID. :) Service Profile Identifier. That's what my telephone company asks for, along with the circuit ID's, when I call about trouble on my ISDN line.
4. Does anyone use portmaster 2 with BRI on 5ESS switch type?
NACS.NET used to before going to ISDN PRI service.
5. Any direct number to lucent Techologies that I could ask some questions about SPID and 5ESS stuff?
Try support@livingston.com (which conveniently is now owned by Lucent :) They may be able to give you some pointers as to who to talk to. -- Steven J. Sobol - Founding Member, Postmaster/Webmaster, ISP Liaison -- Forum for Responsible & Ethical E-mail (FREE) - Dedicated to education about, and prevention of, Unsolicited Broadcast E-mail (UBE), also known as SPAM. Info: http://www.ybecker.net
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