Jeff Mcadams wrote:

Thus spake Richard Irving

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============================================================== ***As the originator of syn, *actively requested* content.*** ==============================================================

I know... I had the same *exact* thought on the way home.. :) (PASV) Also, some about UDP. :\ Transmitter Paid ? But, as you realize the stuff of pricing this model is not inplace yet, (although, most have the skeletons laying around) Lots of things could be given thought ...... For example.. Mileage banding. Cost for "call" = INBAND XX DS0Mile/Seconds + YY OUTBAND DS0Mile/Seconds (Ie: What I should have called earlier SYN path, and ACK path to coin terms) The earlier math didn't expound upon async flows.. :\ Interesting ramifications if you roll out towards that model. It sort of parallels the book, and record industry, as well. Gain popularity.... And you local NSP will "build" out to *you*! (ACK clustering, and final mileage.) :)

Nit-pick...ftp/ftp-data. Maybe a suggestion that we switch completely to pasv mode? (certainly would make ACL's easier to deal with :) -- Jeff McAdams Email: jeffm@iglou.com Head Network Administrator Voice: (502) 966-3848 IgLou Internet Services (800) 436-4456