North Korean internet goes dark (yes, they had one)
Any of you guys want to fess up? :) http://www.msnbc.com/the-ed-show/watch/north-koreas-internet-goes-dark-37609... (Yes, I know, they're saying it's a DDoS, not a routing hack...)
But I can ping them. https://nknetobserver.github.io/ And what would it matter if its offline, they already block their population. What exactly is offline? On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 9:05 PM, Valdis Kletnieks <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu> wrote:
Any of you guys want to fess up? :)
http://www.msnbc.com/the-ed-show/watch/north-koreas-internet-goes-dark-37609...
(Yes, I know, they're saying it's a DDoS, not a routing hack...)
On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 11:16 PM, Javier J <javier@advancedmachines.us> wrote:
But I can ping them.
https://nknetobserver.github.io/
And what would it matter if its offline, they already block their population. What exactly is offline?
The Kim of the moment, the elite, a few journalists, and the like. And, assuming they actually did the exploit in country and didn't outsource it to the Chaos Computer Club (or whomever), their crack team of Sony takedown hackers. There is a separate, inside DPRK only, network for the hoi polloi. Regards Marshall
On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 9:05 PM, Valdis Kletnieks <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
wrote:
Any of you guys want to fess up? :)
http://www.msnbc.com/the-ed-show/watch/north-koreas-internet-goes-dark-37609...
(Yes, I know, they're saying it's a DDoS, not a routing hack...)
On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 1:02 AM, Marshall Eubanks < marshall.eubanks@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 11:16 PM, Javier J <javier@advancedmachines.us> wrote:
But I can ping them.
https://nknetobserver.github.io/
And what would it matter if its offline, they already block their population. What exactly is offline?
The Kim of the moment, the elite, a few journalists, and the like. And, assuming they actually did the exploit in country and didn't outsource it to the Chaos Computer Club (or whomever), their crack team of Sony takedown hackers.
There is a separate, inside DPRK only, network for the hoi polloi.
Regards Marshall
On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 9:05 PM, Valdis Kletnieks < Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu> wrote:
Any of you guys want to fess up? :)
http://www.msnbc.com/the-ed-show/watch/north-koreas-internet-goes-dark-37609...
(Yes, I know, they're saying it's a DDoS, not a routing hack...)
The DPRK Internet is apparently back. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-30584093 I suspect its absence was much more interesting that its presence will be. I am reminded that the Chaos Computer Club has done a lot of good work for electronic freedom. I was remembering events (perhaps unfairly) from decades ago, did not mean to cast any aspersions on their current activities, and am sorry if that offended anyone. Regards Marshall Eubanks
On 12/22/14 20:16, Javier J wrote:
But I can ping them.
https://nknetobserver.github.io/
And what would it matter if its offline, they already block their population. What exactly is offline?
I seem to recall that they also had some space on a Japanese network. I can't hit the Naenara website, which is the DPRK intranet-- that might be what they're talking about. -Sam
On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 6:05 PM, Valdis Kletnieks <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu> wrote:
Any of you guys want to fess up? :)
http://www.msnbc.com/the-ed-show/watch/north-koreas-internet-goes-dark-37609...
(Yes, I know, they're saying it's a DDoS, not a routing hack...)
I was hoping that everyone just put 175.45.176.0/22 in their bogon list. -- Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, 360-474-7474
Why you suggest it? On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 8:38 PM, Joe Hamelin <joe@nethead.com> wrote:
On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 6:05 PM, Valdis Kletnieks <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu> wrote:
Any of you guys want to fess up? :)
http://www.msnbc.com/the-ed-show/watch/north-koreas-internet-goes-dark-37609...
(Yes, I know, they're saying it's a DDoS, not a routing hack...)
I was hoping that everyone just put 175.45.176.0/22 in their bogon list.
-- Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, 360-474-7474
-- Sincerely yours, Pavel Odintsov
What would be the point in blocking them? They don't even have electricity in the country, what would I worry about coming out of their IP block that wouldn't be more interesting than dangerous. Pretty obvious if it was really them behind the Sony hack, it was outsourced. http://www.standupamericaus.org/sua/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/North-Korea-a... On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Joe Hamelin <joe@nethead.com> wrote:
On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 6:05 PM, Valdis Kletnieks <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
wrote:
Any of you guys want to fess up? :)
http://www.msnbc.com/the-ed-show/watch/north-koreas-internet-goes-dark-37609...
(Yes, I know, they're saying it's a DDoS, not a routing hack...)
I was hoping that everyone just put 175.45.176.0/22 in their bogon list.
-- Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, 360-474-7474
On Dec 23, 2014, at 11:53 AM, Javier J <javier@advancedmachines.us> wrote:
What would be the point in blocking them? They don't even have electricity in the country, what would I worry about coming out of their IP block that wouldn't be more interesting than dangerous. Pretty obvious if it was really them behind the Sony hack, it was outsourced.
For the few elite that do have Internet in DPRK it would be 1) a big inconvenience which would annoy them a lot and 2) they have to transmit what they want attacked to the outsourced crew (whoever they might be) somehow. I doubt the outsourced group has a fax#.
You have listened Fox news for too long, being convinced that US are the good, and any others are evil. Dont you?
Le 23 déc. 2014 à 21:00, Landon Stewart <landonstewart@gmail.com> a écrit :
For the few elite that do have Internet in DPRK it would be 1) a big inconvenience which would annoy them a lot and 2) they have to transmit what they want attacked to the outsourced crew (whoever they might be) somehow. I doubt the outsourced group has a fax#.
What would be the point in blocking them? They don't even have electricity in the country, what would I worry about coming out of their IP block that wouldn't be more interesting than dangerous. Pretty obvious if it was really them behind the Sony hack, it was outsourced.
For the few elite that do have Internet in DPRK it would be 1) a big inconvenience which would annoy them a lot and 2) they have to transmit what they want attacked to the outsourced crew (whoever they might be) somehow. I doubt the outsourced group has a fax#.
I am pretty sure that they have fax machines in Washington Dee Cee. --- Theory is when you know everything but nothing works. Practice is when everything works but no one knows why. Sometimes theory and practice are combined: nothing works and no one knows why.
Looks like it is still going on. you can make this stuff up: ""Obama always goes reckless in words and deeds like a monkey in a tropical forest,"" http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/12/north-korea-suffers-another-inter... On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 6:26 PM, Keith Medcalf <kmedcalf@dessus.com> wrote:
What would be the point in blocking them? They don't even have electricity in the country, what would I worry about coming out of their IP block that wouldn't be more interesting than dangerous. Pretty obvious if it was really them behind the Sony hack, it was outsourced.
For the few elite that do have Internet in DPRK it would be 1) a big inconvenience which would annoy them a lot and 2) they have to transmit what they want attacked to the outsourced crew (whoever they might be) somehow. I doubt the outsourced group has a fax#.
I am pretty sure that they have fax machines in Washington Dee Cee.
--- Theory is when you know everything but nothing works. Practice is when everything works but no one knows why. Sometimes theory and practice are combined: nothing works and no one knows why.
CCC would not do anything pro-NK. On 27 December 2014 at 19:49, Javier J <javier@advancedmachines.us> wrote:
Looks like it is still going on.
you can make this stuff up:
""Obama always goes reckless in words and deeds like a monkey in a tropical forest,""
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/12/north-korea-suffers-another-inter...
On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 6:26 PM, Keith Medcalf <kmedcalf@dessus.com> wrote:
What would be the point in blocking them? They don't even have electricity in the country, what would I worry about coming out of their IP block that wouldn't be more interesting than dangerous. Pretty obvious if it was really them behind the Sony hack, it was outsourced.
For the few elite that do have Internet in DPRK it would be 1) a big inconvenience which would annoy them a lot and 2) they have to transmit what they want attacked to the outsourced crew (whoever they might be) somehow. I doubt the outsourced group has a fax#.
I am pretty sure that they have fax machines in Washington Dee Cee.
--- Theory is when you know everything but nothing works. Practice is when everything works but no one knows why. Sometimes theory and practice are combined: nothing works and no one knows why.
-- BaconZombie 55:55:44:44:4C:52:4C:52:42:41 LOAD "*",8,1
I was hoping that everyone just put 175.45.176.0/22 in their bogon list. why? is it something despicable such as the dee cee propaganda engine? Because poorly targeted prefix filtering works so well for spam and
On 12/23/14 12:40 PM, Randy Bush wrote: ddos... except that it doesn't.
randy
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