12 years ago today...

On October 16th, we lost a real friend and hero. Sigh.... http://www.apps.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2468.html

On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Rodney Joffe <rjoffe@centergate.com> wrote:
On October 16th, we lost a real friend and hero. Sigh....
Amen. Long Live Jon Postel !!

On 10/15/10 8:38 PM, "Jorge Amodio" <jmamodio@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Rodney Joffe <rjoffe@centergate.com> wrote:
On October 16th, we lost a real friend and hero. Sigh....
Amen. Long Live Jon Postel !!
And you can sometimes hear his comments http://www.facebook.com/jon.postel :)

He should have been better known for his work. The intertubes will miss you Sent via mobile. On Oct 15, 2010, at 8:38 PM, Jorge Amodio <jmamodio@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Rodney Joffe <rjoffe@centergate.com> wrote:
On October 16th, we lost a real friend and hero. Sigh....
Amen. Long Live Jon Postel !!

I bet it was terribly hard for Vint to write that. Was really nice to read though, and to know that he had a good enough friend to express his deep sorrow so publicly. While we are on the subject of "the godfathers of the Internet", when is a documentary coming out that tells the story? There was a really long documentary done on the BBS, surely someone (myself included) would find it interesting. //warren Sent from a mobile phone with a small keyboard, please excuse my mistakes. On Oct 16, 2010, at 12:45 AM, "Ali S" <sterbeats@gmail.com> wrote:
He should have been better known for his work. The intertubes will miss you
Sent via mobile.
On Oct 15, 2010, at 8:38 PM, Jorge Amodio <jmamodio@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Rodney Joffe <rjoffe@centergate.com> wrote:
On October 16th, we lost a real friend and hero. Sigh....
Amen. Long Live Jon Postel !!

I'm not sure about a documentary, but a group of us are working on identifying all the different independent archives that have records from "the early years" with the idea of creating a Smithsonian/national archive collection at some point. We'll probably issue an rfc early next year. On Oct 16, 2010, at 2:02 AM, Warren Bailey <wbailey@gci.com> wrote:
I bet it was terribly hard for Vint to write that. Was really nice to read though, and to know that he had a good enough friend to express his deep sorrow so publicly.
While we are on the subject of "the godfathers of the Internet", when is a documentary coming out that tells the story? There was a really long documentary done on the BBS, surely someone (myself included) would find it interesting.
//warren
Sent from a mobile phone with a small keyboard, please excuse my mistakes.
On Oct 16, 2010, at 12:45 AM, "Ali S" <sterbeats@gmail.com> wrote:
He should have been better known for his work. The intertubes will miss you
Sent via mobile.
On Oct 15, 2010, at 8:38 PM, Jorge Amodio <jmamodio@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Rodney Joffe <rjoffe@centergate.com> wrote:
On October 16th, we lost a real friend and hero. Sigh....
Amen. Long Live Jon Postel !!

On 16/10/10 09:09 -0700, Rodney Joffe wrote:
I'm not sure about a documentary, but a group of us are working on identifying all the different independent archives that have records from "the early years" with the idea of creating a Smithsonian/national archive collection at some point. We'll probably issue an rfc early next year.
Hopefully someone remembers to call it the Postel Historical Institute[*]. [*] RFC 1607 -- Dan White

On 16/10/10 10:02, Warren Bailey wrote:
While we are on the subject of "the godfathers of the Internet", when is a documentary coming out that tells the story? There was a really long documentary done on the BBS, surely someone (myself included) would find it interesting.
I can recommend "Where Wizards Stay Up Late" by Katie Hafner http://www.amazon.com/Where-Wizards-Stay-Up-Late/dp/0684832674 A really good read IMHO. Will

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 10/18/2010 08:03 AM, Will Hargrave wrote:
I can recommend "Where Wizards Stay Up Late" by Katie Hafner
http://www.amazon.com/Where-Wizards-Stay-Up-Late/dp/0684832674
A really good read IMHO.
An excellent read, highly recommended! Also check out Steven Levy's Hackers. It goes a bit beyond the Internet, but the first part is definitely relevant. I would love to see an actual documentary put together, though. Surely there has to be footage out there of the early days.
Will
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Greetings, On Mon, 18 Oct 2010, Jason 'XenoPhage' Frisvold wrote:
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On 10/18/2010 08:03 AM, Will Hargrave wrote:
I can recommend "Where Wizards Stay Up Late" by Katie Hafner
http://www.amazon.com/Where-Wizards-Stay-Up-Late/dp/0684832674
A really good read IMHO.
An excellent read, highly recommended! Also check out Steven Levy's Hackers. It goes a bit beyond the Internet, but the first part is definitely relevant.
I would love to see an actual documentary put together, though. Surely there has to be footage out there of the early days.
I have video footage of the ANS / NSFnet NOC in the days of the T1 and T3 NSFnet. Also have many early network maps of NSFnet. And stored away in my collection are 9 of the IBM RT's that were used in the T1 NSFnet, some still with their original software and configurations, along with all the Token Ring gear and cables. One of these RT's was the software development machine used by Merit to develop rcp-routed, with all the source code still on the hard drive. And hanging on my wall in my office is the backdrop used in a promotional video (when ANS was bidding for the T3-NSFnet grant). This consisted of a view of mostly the Northern hemisphere, with blinky lights, and arrows, and lines showing the first T3 link between Ann Arbor and Virginia(?). I know of one other ex-ANS employee who "collected" old hardware and documentation, as well. Guess we both figured it was something that shouldn't be lost to the dumpster... --- Jay Nugent +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Jay Nugent jjn@nuge.com (734)484-5105 (734)649-0850/Cell | | Nugent Telecommunications [www.nuge.com] | | Internet Consulting/Linux SysAdmin/Engineering & Design/ISP Reseller | | ISP Monitoring [www.ispmonitor.org] ISP & Modem Performance Monitoring | | Web-Pegasus [www.webpegasus.com] Web Hosting/DNS Hosting/Shell Accts| +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 11:01am up 40 days, 19:11, 3 users, load average: 0.64, 0.20, 0.13

On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 13:03:54 +0100 Will Hargrave <will@harg.net> wrote:
On 16/10/10 10:02, Warren Bailey wrote:
While we are on the subject of "the godfathers of the Internet", when is a documentary coming out that tells the story? There was a really long documentary done on the BBS, surely someone (myself included) would find it interesting.
I can recommend "Where Wizards Stay Up Late" by Katie Hafner
http://www.amazon.com/Where-Wizards-Stay-Up-Late/dp/0684832674
A really good read IMHO.
As is RFC2468 (Who do we appreciate!) - "I REMEMBER IANA"
Will

On Sat, 2010-10-16 at 01:43 -0700, Ali S wrote:
He should have been better known for his work. The intertubes will miss you
One day I hope he'll be featured in school history lessons. An amazing legacy - something approaching 1/3rd of the planet's population uses it every time they use the 'nets. Gord -- History repeating itself? tcpdump the STP to figure out why.

On 10/15/2010 10:51 PM, Rodney Joffe wrote:
On October 16th, we lost a real friend and hero. Sigh.... http://www.apps.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2468.html
Quite a few of us felt compelled to remark on his life and effect on us. They've been nicely collected at postel.org: <http://postel.org/remembrances/> Speak softly and carry a big registry. d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net
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Ali S
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Dan White
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Dave CROCKER
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gordon b slater
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Jason 'XenoPhage' Frisvold
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Jay Nugent
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Jorge Amodio
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Mark Smith
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Rodney Joffe
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Warren Bailey
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Will Hargrave
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Zaid Ali