Tim Bass wrote: <skipped> Oh, here we go again; arguing against mathematics. "Social Engineering" is merely a way to organize a society so it won't behave in a self-destructive manner. Free market rules (private property, freedom of trading, etc) is also a form of social engineering. Attaching any religious value to it is silly and counterproductive. In most cases the free market is quite adequate as a regulator. However, Internet namespace *is* a monopoly; and free market approach does not work here. There's no other Internet to go to if you don't like pricing or features or performance of the current one (and i'm not sure we want to have an alternative Internet). The problem with the "infinite" resources like namespaces is that they aren't. Every single name added to .COM does not do much damage; but the cumulative effect is that the whole system is going straight into a brick wall. It is no different from route announcements in terms of social dynamics. The math is also very much the same. --vadim PS BTW, is there any kind of statistics for .COM NS-es on the diversity of requests per different time intervals? How many requests are handled by .COM NS-es every second?
a regulator. However, Internet namespace *is* a monopoly; and free market approach does not work here. There's no other Internet to go to if you don't like pricing or features or performance of the current one (and i'm
If I can buy name registration from someone who will put me in .xxx for $45/year or I can buy from someone else who will put me in .com for $50, then, from my point of view, there certainly isn't a monopoly.
Vadim replies to my diatribe against social engineering: < condensed a little >
"Social Engineering" is merely a way to organize a society so it won't behave in a self-destructive manner. Free market rules (private property, freedom of trading, etc) is also a form of social engineering. Attaching any religious value to it is silly and counterproductive.
I agree with all of your counterarguments, BTW..... but we still disagree that creating an antisocial climate to fix a technical problem is "A Good Thing". You, and many others before you, and many after you will, with much justification and logic and mathematics, conclude that using emotional arguments to accomplish technical objectives "Is Acceptable"...."The Ends Justify the Means". The other side of the ying and yang say " The End Never Justifies Improper Means" and fortunately they both exist in the world to keep things in balance (to avoid extremes by both sides of the antipode). So, please excuse me for not jumping on the "let's shame everyone into following our fears" bandwagon. If there is truly an impossible technical solution, and that can be proven and documented, the 'rational human mind' shall gladly follow in the fold. But, I believe most will agree ( at least I hope !!) "Let's Try the Technical Options Before the Social Ones" .... at least, I thought that was the ethics of the "Internet Order". \begin{lamentationANDrhetoric} "Have we as Internauts, just given up on technical progress? Content to coerce others to follow 'the new order' with emotional appeal, are we to to practice the same barbarian tactics as those we all fought against? Be careful of hate of our enemies, for in our emotional nature, we will become as they are in time. \end{lamentationANDrhetoric} Again, I argue for "Finding a Better Approach" than blaming the people for the problems and deficiencies of the systems. Well, Vadim, I love you, but we disagree on this topic (not the first time and probably not the last). I admire you regardless of our different perspectives on this moot issue. Best Regards, Tim +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Tim Bass | | | Network Systems Engineer | "Never underestimate the bandwidth | | The Silk Road Group, Ltd. | of a station wagon full of tapes | | | hurtling down the highway." | | http://www.silkroad.com/ | -Andrew Tanenbaum | | | | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+
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