919 is in fact the area I'm looking at. so far i've put together: select areas can get att dsl up to 3mbit but its rare select areas have uverse select areas have centurylink(couldnt believe this but verified it from a friend in cary, nc) twc cable has good coverage over most of the area all in all what a horrible lack of options really. i just started looking into time warner, looks like they have some kind of wholesale offering: http://wholesalecarrierservice.com/ crossing my fingers that the twc wholesale will fit my needs but not holding my breath i thank everyone for all their replies to this thread, there has been an abundance of great information. chris On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 11:08 PM, LQ Marshall <qmarshall@inetspace.net>wrote:

There are a number of COs in RDU area and especially 919 area code which are reportedly at capacity. There has been little or no movement in upgrade "plans" at these locations (over years). Depending on which CO you are coming out of and your budget there are other options.

FIOS is very rare in the 919 area as most of it (all?) is Bell South/ATT. U-Verse has limited coverage in the area. IMOHO if you're looking for the sub $100 solution TWC is the way to go.

gl

-----Original Message----- From: Frank Bulk [mailto:frnkblk@iname.com] Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 5:23 PM To: 'chris' Cc: NANOG list Subject: RE: BellSouth (att?) with a clue in Raleigh, NC

Verizon is FiOS, AT&T has U-verse which is FTTC.

Frank

-----Original Message----- From: chris [mailto:tknchris@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 8:34 PM To: Faisal Imtiaz Cc: NANOG list Subject: Re: BellSouth (att?) with a clue in Raleigh, NC

Looks like no dice on uverse, says its not available. i thought uverse was fios though atleast that was my understanding. now im even more confused, how can att/bellsouth be the ILEC and have zero internet options at all but be offering pots? Only logical thing I can think of is distance from the CO making dsl a no-go but i cant get an actual qual to atleast confirm that :(

On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <faisal@snappydsl.net> wrote:

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Google for their Uverse site and check if u can get it... They will do Uverse (Internet only). Only if u order online....

Faisal

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On Mar 10, 2012, at 9:02 PM, chris <tknchris@gmail.com> wrote:

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Hi,

I am trying to look into dsl in the RDU area and at&t customer service has been exceedingly unhelpful only telling me "no service available, we have no idea when services will become available, check back periodically". I would atleast like to get an answer that theres no available capacity, its over the 18k limit of dsl, or some other logical answer. Is there anyone at bellsouth/att or one of their clec's who can help me do some qual's and hopefully also help get this delivered?

i did some lookups on known pots in the area and came up with: LATA426 NameR ALEIGH N CAROLINA Historical Region BellSouth Area Codes in LATA 919 Carrier Common Name AT&T Southeast OCN 9417 OCN Type RBOC Name Bellsouth Telecomm Inc dba Southern Bell Telephone & Telegraph Abbreviation BELLSOUTH SO BELL DBA Southern Bell Telephone & Telegraph FKA Southern Bell Telephone & Telegraph

so im pretty sure im contacting the right telco just surprised that their customer service is offering pots but says no internet available, wtf?

thanks for any info you can provide, chris