Hello guys, What do you use for ARIN resource assignments? I am looking to setup a Debian-based RWHOIS server but don't see much information on it. Joshua Moore Network Engineer ATC Broadband 912.632.3161 - O | 912.218.3720 - M
On 07/08/15 19:38 +0000, Josh Moore wrote:
Hello guys,
What do you use for ARIN resource assignments? I am looking to setup a Debian-based RWHOIS server but don't see much information on it.
As of a couple of years ago when I looked around, there were no recent packaged versions of rwhoisd for Debian. We run a compiled version. -- Dan White
I think this is what you're asking for: http://projects.arin.net/rwhois Should be a ./configure && make && make install #per this http://projects.arin.net/rwhois/docs/installation.html Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 3:52 PM, Dan White <dwhite@olp.net> wrote:
On 07/08/15 19:38 +0000, Josh Moore wrote:
Hello guys,
What do you use for ARIN resource assignments? I am looking to setup a
Debian-based RWHOIS server but don't see much information on it.
As of a couple of years ago when I looked around, there were no recent packaged versions of rwhoisd for Debian. We run a compiled version.
-- Dan White
We ran it for a while, then gave up and just updated the info on Arin. -----Original Message----- From: "Josh Luthman" <josh@imaginenetworksllc.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2015 3:56pm To: "Dan White" <dwhite@olp.net> Cc: "Josh Moore" <jmoore@atcnetworks.net>, "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re: Debian RWHOIS I think this is what you're asking for: http://projects.arin.net/rwhois Should be a ./configure && make && make install #per this http://projects.arin.net/rwhois/docs/installation.html Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 3:52 PM, Dan White <dwhite@olp.net> wrote:
On 07/08/15 19:38 +0000, Josh Moore wrote:
Hello guys,
What do you use for ARIN resource assignments? I am looking to setup a
Debian-based RWHOIS server but don't see much information on it.
As of a couple of years ago when I looked around, there were no recent packaged versions of rwhoisd for Debian. We run a compiled version.
-- Dan White
Few years back I wrote an RWHOIS daemon for HE and because of that got put in touch with Mark Kosters, one of the RWHOIS RFC authors. Without mincing words he basically told me RWHOIS was dead. Honestly, unless you have a specific reason to use RWHOIS (privatizing records as allowed by ARIN policy) your best bet is to programmatically update the info on ARIN using their API. I wouldn't even both emailing SWIP updates if you want to go the route of automatic updates since I would guess that system will be retired in favor of the RESTful API. Jeff Walter On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Shawn L <shawnl@up.net> wrote:
We ran it for a while, then gave up and just updated the info on Arin.
-----Original Message----- From: "Josh Luthman" <josh@imaginenetworksllc.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2015 3:56pm To: "Dan White" <dwhite@olp.net> Cc: "Josh Moore" <jmoore@atcnetworks.net>, "nanog@nanog.org" < nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re: Debian RWHOIS
I think this is what you're asking for:
http://projects.arin.net/rwhois
Should be a ./configure && make && make install #per this http://projects.arin.net/rwhois/docs/installation.html
Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 3:52 PM, Dan White <dwhite@olp.net> wrote:
On 07/08/15 19:38 +0000, Josh Moore wrote:
Hello guys,
What do you use for ARIN resource assignments? I am looking to setup a
Debian-based RWHOIS server but don't see much information on it.
As of a couple of years ago when I looked around, there were no recent packaged versions of rwhoisd for Debian. We run a compiled version.
-- Dan White
If you know anyone with some basic coding experience. Check this out. https://www.npmjs.com/package/rwhois It works far easier than the ARIN provided daemons and we have been successful using it with ARIN. Thanks On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 4:12 PM, Jeff Walter <jwalter@weebly.com> wrote:
Few years back I wrote an RWHOIS daemon for HE and because of that got put in touch with Mark Kosters, one of the RWHOIS RFC authors. Without mincing words he basically told me RWHOIS was dead. Honestly, unless you have a specific reason to use RWHOIS (privatizing records as allowed by ARIN policy) your best bet is to programmatically update the info on ARIN using their API. I wouldn't even both emailing SWIP updates if you want to go the route of automatic updates since I would guess that system will be retired in favor of the RESTful API.
Jeff Walter
On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Shawn L <shawnl@up.net> wrote:
We ran it for a while, then gave up and just updated the info on Arin.
-----Original Message----- From: "Josh Luthman" <josh@imaginenetworksllc.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2015 3:56pm To: "Dan White" <dwhite@olp.net> Cc: "Josh Moore" <jmoore@atcnetworks.net>, "nanog@nanog.org" < nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re: Debian RWHOIS
I think this is what you're asking for:
http://projects.arin.net/rwhois
Should be a ./configure && make && make install #per this http://projects.arin.net/rwhois/docs/installation.html
Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 3:52 PM, Dan White <dwhite@olp.net> wrote:
On 07/08/15 19:38 +0000, Josh Moore wrote:
Hello guys,
What do you use for ARIN resource assignments? I am looking to setup a
Debian-based RWHOIS server but don't see much information on it.
As of a couple of years ago when I looked around, there were no recent packaged versions of rwhoisd for Debian. We run a compiled version.
-- Dan White
-- eSited LLC (701) 390-9638
I concur ... Mark told me the same at the ARIN/NANOG OTR in San Diego last year. The RESTful API is the way to go. On 7/8/15, 5:12 PM, "NANOG on behalf of Jeff Walter" <nanog-bounces@nanog.org on behalf of jwalter@weebly.com> wrote:
Few years back I wrote an RWHOIS daemon for HE and because of that got put in touch with Mark Kosters, one of the RWHOIS RFC authors. Without mincing words he basically told me RWHOIS was dead. Honestly, unless you have a specific reason to use RWHOIS (privatizing records as allowed by ARIN policy) your best bet is to programmatically update the info on ARIN using their API. I wouldn't even both emailing SWIP updates if you want to go the route of automatic updates since I would guess that system will be retired in favor of the RESTful API.
Jeff Walter
On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Shawn L <shawnl@up.net> wrote:
We ran it for a while, then gave up and just updated the info on Arin.
-----Original Message----- From: "Josh Luthman" <josh@imaginenetworksllc.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2015 3:56pm To: "Dan White" <dwhite@olp.net> Cc: "Josh Moore" <jmoore@atcnetworks.net>, "nanog@nanog.org" < nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re: Debian RWHOIS
I think this is what you're asking for:
http://projects.arin.net/rwhois
Should be a ./configure && make && make install #per this http://projects.arin.net/rwhois/docs/installation.html
Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 3:52 PM, Dan White <dwhite@olp.net> wrote:
On 07/08/15 19:38 +0000, Josh Moore wrote:
Hello guys,
What do you use for ARIN resource assignments? I am looking to setup a
Debian-based RWHOIS server but don't see much information on it.
As of a couple of years ago when I looked around, there were no recent packaged versions of rwhoisd for Debian. We run a compiled version.
-- Dan White
And let ARIN know while you're at it. Ive heard similar ideas from them but have heard no path of upgrade on justification. On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 4:31 PM, Landon Stewart <landonstewart@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jul 8, 2015, at 3:12 PM, Jeff Walter <jwalter@weebly.com> wrote:
Without mincing words he basically told me RWHOIS was dead.
Someone please tell Spamhaus.
Landon Stewart landonstewart@gmail.com
-- eSited LLC (701) 390-9638
On 09/07/15 00:31, Landon Stewart wrote:
On Jul 8, 2015, at 3:12 PM, Jeff Walter <jwalter@weebly.com> wrote:
Without mincing words he basically told me RWHOIS was dead.
Someone please tell Spamhaus.
Not sure why they should care. As long as proper info about the assignee are provided, who cares if the info comes from ARIN's or your whois server?
On Wed, 08 Jul 2015 18:12:47 -0400, Jeff Walter <jwalter@weebly.com> wrote:
he basically told me RWHOIS was dead
It is most certainly NOT dead. It is, and always has been, a very small userbase. SWIP has always been a pain in the ass. Modern web-ized methods are more acceptable, but still an ugly mess. But, that said, so are all the (r)whois implementations. In eons long past, I ran an rwhois server. It was almost infinitely easier to convert our address management database (text file) into rwhois zone data. And since the only reason to do any of this crap was for address requests -- once or twice a year, the reduction in man hours dealing with SWIP was greatly rewarded.
On 7/8/15, 7:05 PM, "NANOG on behalf of Ricky Beam" <nanog-bounces@nanog.org on behalf of jfbeam@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 08 Jul 2015 18:12:47 -0400, Jeff Walter <jwalter@weebly.com> wrote:
he basically told me RWHOIS was dead
It is most certainly NOT dead. It is, and always has been, a very small userbase. SWIP has always been a pain in the ass. Modern web-ized methods
are more acceptable, but still an ugly mess. But, that said, so are all the (r)whois implementations.
In eons long past, I ran an rwhois server. It was almost infinitely easier to convert our address management database (text file) into rwhois zone data. And since the only reason to do any of this crap was for address requests -- once or twice a year, the reduction in man hours dealing with
SWIP was greatly rewarded.
³Dead² is probably not the right word. Perhaps ³obsolete² is better. Do people still use it? Yes. I installed and ran it in the early aughts when that was ARIN¹s requirement for requesting IP blocks when we outgrew those given to us by UUnet. It was a giant pain in the butt importing all of our data into it, but we did, down to the customer /29s, and I patiently waited for ARIN to query it to meet our obligations. Finally, one day, I saw a query. One query. (One ping only.) And it worked, and we got our /19. So is rwhois dead? Perhaps not. Is it something I would invest any time or effort into? No.
I'd recommend you use the official RWHOIS project from ARIN. http://projects.arin.net/rwhois/ It will run after compilation on Debian. Christopher Dye Paragon Solutions Group, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Dan White Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 2:53 PM To: Josh Moore Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Debian RWHOIS On 07/08/15 19:38 +0000, Josh Moore wrote:
Hello guys,
What do you use for ARIN resource assignments? I am looking to setup a Debian-based RWHOIS server but don't see much information on it.
As of a couple of years ago when I looked around, there were no recent packaged versions of rwhoisd for Debian. We run a compiled version. -- Dan White
I'm looking more for specific use case examples from the real world. How do you interact with the RWHOIS? Do you use RWHOIS or Email SWIP or RESTful? Joshua Moore Network Engineer ATC Broadband 912.632.3161 - O | 912.218.3720 - M -----Original Message----- From: Christopher Dye [mailto:chris.dye@paragon.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 3:57 PM To: Dan White; Josh Moore Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Debian RWHOIS I'd recommend you use the official RWHOIS project from ARIN. http://projects.arin.net/rwhois/ It will run after compilation on Debian. Christopher Dye Paragon Solutions Group, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Dan White Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 2:53 PM To: Josh Moore Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Debian RWHOIS On 07/08/15 19:38 +0000, Josh Moore wrote:
Hello guys,
What do you use for ARIN resource assignments? I am looking to setup a Debian-based RWHOIS server but don't see much information on it.
As of a couple of years ago when I looked around, there were no recent packaged versions of rwhoisd for Debian. We run a compiled version. -- Dan White
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