Katrina impact on US internet backbone -- analysis
I'd be interested in what the curmudgeons on the list think about this: http://www.boingboing.net/2005/09/04/katrina_impact_on_us.html - ferg -- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawg@netzero.net or fergdawg@sbcglobal.net ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/
all, On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 02:09:50AM +0000, Fergie (Paul Ferguson) wrote:
http://www.boingboing.net/2005/09/04/katrina_impact_on_us.html
not to put too fine a point on it, but this post appears, to me, to be unmitigated (or poorly mitigated) crap. many, many of the fiber paths between atlanta and houston don't go v. close to new orleans. most of them appear to be functioning rather well. the linked-to story appears only to refer to Internet2, not exactly "the internet", really. renesys will be releasing a report on the net impacts of this event early-to-mid next week and it should have detail related to who was out (mostly locally originated) and when and for how long. we've got some good data from our routing data sources and some interesting data contributed by other parties as well. if anyone has information about broader net-effects of this outage that you'd like to share, pls let me know or post to the list here. t. -- _____________________________________________________________________ todd underwood director of operations & security renesys - interdomain intelligence todd@renesys.com www.renesys.com
On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 02:09:50AM +0000, Fergie (Paul Ferguson) wrote:
I'd be interested in what the curmudgeons on the list think about this:
http://www.boingboing.net/2005/09/04/katrina_impact_on_us.html
As the chief crumudgeon of the day I guess I'll take a stab at that one. Personally, I think what I've always thought: * Internet2 is a glorified sandbox for college kids, not the Internet. * Boingboing is not a source of actual networking news. * Apparently neither is NANOG these days. And now for some actual technical content (some people may want to avert their eyes): FWIW we have a wave running between Atlanta and Houston on Global Crossing which has not blinked once, since their express ring on that path bypasses New Orleans completely (only their Florida ring passes through NO). Level 3's only path through New Orleans is also off of their Florida ring, looks like they have an Atlanta->Dallas route that is decidedly non-costal which would probably be shorter for reaching Houston anyways. WCG's Atlanta->Houston route seems to be the same as GX, bypassing New Orleans completely, and only passing through it for the Florida ring. This would probably explain why we've heard so little about non-regional impact for the majority of users. Anyone want to take a stab as to what vendor the Internet2 guys are using? -- Richard A Steenbergen <ras@e-gerbil.net> http://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)
Hi, Does anyone have any links, maps, etc, that shows an overview of which fiber providers traverse Louisiana, touching Baton Rouge, which do not have eastbound paths dependant on New Orleans facilities? I am not looking for exact routes, yet. I know the general one that was generated for the state in 2002. Looking for OC-48 links. Please contact me off list. Providers contacting me is ok. Thank you G
Gerry Boudreaux wrote:
Hi,
Does anyone have any links, maps, etc, that shows an overview of which fiber providers traverse Louisiana, touching Baton Rouge, which do not have eastbound paths dependant on New Orleans facilities?
I am not looking for exact routes, yet.
I know the general one that was generated for the state in 2002.
This is classified information since 9/11 to prevent terrorist from devastating the communications infrastructure of the USA? Everybody's blind these days and without vital information for non-terrorist events. -- Andre
On Sun, Sep 04, 2005 at 11:50:18PM -0400, Richard A Steenbergen wrote:
Anyone want to take a stab as to what vendor the Internet2 guys are using?
Ok, thanks to everyone who pointed out that it is Qwest. Looks like Qwest is one of the few who's fiber route from Atlanta to a Texas location goes through New Orleans without going all the way around Florida, and without having another non-Florida path which is primary. http://www.indiana.edu/~ovpit/presentations/icitp/img025.gif -- Richard A Steenbergen <ras@e-gerbil.net> http://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)
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