Anyone planning to peer with these guys ?
Showed up on a mailing list, reportedly sent by Walt Rines from a Hotmail account. If they set up their own network, that's A-OK with me unless, of course, someone foolishly connects it to the Internet. Regards, John Levine, postmaster@abuse.net, http://www.abuse.net, Trumansburg NY abuse.net postmaster --------- Cyber Promotions/Quantum Communications Press Release Spam Backbone Formed The "Spam King," Sanford Wallace, and Walt Rines Have incorporated their new bulk-email friendly backbone network For Immediate Release: Philadelphia 11/20/97-- Sanford Wallace, Walt Rines and an undisclosed third party have formed Global Technology Marketing, Inc. (GTMI). The new corporation will offer direct , high speed T-1 And T-3 Internet connections to companies that engage in mass commercial email. Currently, there are no other backbone providers that allow customers to send spam. GTMI will be offering connectivity contracts by the beginning of the next week. Sanford Wallace commented: "We are very excited about this new project. For the first time ever, Internet marketers will be encouraged to engage in direct advertising, a practice which is already accepted in the postal world." Walt Rines stated: "Finally, bulk emailers will have an opportunity to legitimize this new industry. We are going to prove that this explosive new market can be self-regulated." Technical Details: GTMI has established a national backbone which operates as a fully-meshed network operating at DS-3 speeds, and interconnecting, or "peering" with several other networks at undisclosed private peering points. Multiple Lucent 5E12 switches, capable of processing data using multiple protocols including Internet (IP) Protocol, will route the traffic through the network. Dr. Robert Elliot, Chief Technology Officer, was quoted as saying, "We are excited about employing the Lucent 5E12 switches in the new network architecture. It just proves that IP telephony is becoming a reality." More detailed information will follow within the week CONTACT INFO: Sanford Wallace: 215-628-9705 Walter Rines: 603-772-4096
On Thu, Nov 20, 1997 at 06:20:39PM -0800, Vadim Antonov wrote:
CONTACT INFO: Sanford Wallace: 215-628-9705 Walter Rines: 603-772-4096
What a wonderful opportunity to give them a call.
Collect. Cheers, - jra -- Jay R. Ashworth jra@baylink.com Member of the Technical Staff Unsolicited Commercial Emailers Sued The Suncoast Freenet "Two words: Darth Doogie." -- Jason Colby, Tampa Bay, Florida on alt.fan.heinlein +1 813 790 7592
Technical Details: GTMI has established a national backbone which operates as a fully-meshed network operating at DS-3 speeds, and interconnecting, or "peering" with several other networks at undisclosed private peering points. Multiple Lucent 5E12 switches, capable of processing data using multiple protocols including Internet (IP) Protocol, will route the traffic through the network. Dr. Robert Elliot, Chief Technology Officer, was quoted as saying, "We are excited about employing the Lucent 5E12 switches in the new network architecture. It just proves that IP telephony is becoming a reality."
Could someone more clued in on Lucent switches comment on this? I went to Lucent's web site and did a search for 5E12 and it returned nothing. I found some stuff on 5E11, which apparently is a new software release for the 5ESS-2000 switch. Bradley
FWIW, In my years in telephony, past and present, I've always known the 5ESS (5E) as a Class Five (end-office) Central Office switch. The trailing numeric is usually indicative of the 'generic', or software rev. that the switch is operating on. Exclusively voice, too ... although I haven't kept up on the more recent developments that come with the 5ESS-2000 platform/chassis. Regards, Mark On Thu, 20 Nov 1997, Bradley Dunn wrote:
Technical Details: GTMI has established a national backbone which operates as a fully-meshed network operating at DS-3 speeds, and interconnecting, or "peering" with several other networks at undisclosed private peering points. Multiple Lucent 5E12 switches, capable of processing data using multiple protocols including Internet (IP) Protocol, will route the traffic through the network. Dr. Robert Elliot, Chief Technology Officer, was quoted as saying, "We are excited about employing the Lucent 5E12 switches in the new network architecture. It just proves that IP telephony is becoming a reality."
Could someone more clued in on Lucent switches comment on this? I went to Lucent's web site and did a search for 5E12 and it returned nothing. I found some stuff on 5E11, which apparently is a new software release for the 5ESS-2000 switch.
Bradley
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On Thu, Nov 20, 1997 at 07:20:47PM -0800, Mark Evans wrote:
FWIW, In my years in telephony, past and present, I've always known the 5ESS (5E) as a Class Five (end-office) Central Office switch. The trailing numeric is usually indicative of the 'generic', or software rev. that the switch is operating on.
Exclusively voice, too ... although I haven't kept up on the more recent developments that come with the 5ESS-2000 platform/chassis.
Hrm, I have seen it mentioned many times in reference to ISDN lines...? (or am I thinking of something else?) -- Steve Sobol, Tech Support, New Age Consulting Service, Inc. 216 619-2000 sjsobol @ nacs.net http://www.nacs.net/support (Under Construction) "The problem with the gene pool is that there's no lifeguard." - A friend of mine on #romance
The 5ESS platform is certainly capable of providing ISDN, as it sees the ISDN services (BRI and PRI) as dial-tone services -- digital dial-tone, but dial-tone just the same. (POTS dial-tone is a given for a Class 5 office) Regards Mark On Thu, 20 Nov 1997, Steve Sobol wrote:
On Thu, Nov 20, 1997 at 07:20:47PM -0800, Mark Evans wrote:
FWIW, In my years in telephony, past and present, I've always known the 5ESS (5E) as a Class Five (end-office) Central Office switch. The trailing numeric is usually indicative of the 'generic', or software rev. that the switch is operating on.
Exclusively voice, too ... although I haven't kept up on the more recent developments that come with the 5ESS-2000 platform/chassis.
Hrm, I have seen it mentioned many times in reference to ISDN lines...?
(or am I thinking of something else?)
-- Steve Sobol, Tech Support, New Age Consulting Service, Inc. 216 619-2000 sjsobol @ nacs.net http://www.nacs.net/support (Under Construction) "The problem with the gene pool is that there's no lifeguard." - A friend of mine on #romance
**************************************** Mark Evans Manager, Sales Engineering TCG CERFnet, Inc. http://www.cerf.net/ v(908)392-3816 evansm@cerf.net ****************************************
On Thu, Nov 20, 1997 at 09:47:28PM -0500, Bradley Dunn wrote:
Could someone more clued in on Lucent switches comment on this? I went to Lucent's web site and did a search for 5E12 and it returned nothing. I found some stuff on 5E11, which apparently is a new software release for the 5ESS-2000 switch.
Indeed, that is the standard way of referring to a generic software load for a 5ESS switch. I gather the 5ESS-2000 has some data networking capabilities, though, so they may be only partially clueless. Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth jra@baylink.com Member of the Technical Staff Unsolicited Commercial Emailers Sued The Suncoast Freenet "Two words: Darth Doogie." -- Jason Colby, Tampa Bay, Florida on alt.fan.heinlein +1 813 790 7592
Showed up on a mailing list, reportedly sent by Walt Rines from a Hotmail account. If they set up their own network, that's A-OK with me unless, of course, someone foolishly connects it to the Internet.
Regards, John Levine, postmaster@abuse.net, http://www.abuse.net, Trumansburg NY abuse.net postmaster
--------- Cyber Promotions/Quantum Communications
Press Release
Spam Backbone Formed
... etc ... Also saw it on news.com (http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,16682,00.html). What caught my eye was this bit at the bottom of the page: "The only thing that's going to turn us off is either a law or the antispammers finding a way to attack us to the ground," [Sanford] said. Wallace added that if the network doesn't work, then he will officially throw in the towel. "If this doesn't work, nothing will," he said. "If it doesn't go, then that's it for me--I'm done." Cool. All we need to do is blackhole any routes to him for a little while (the oh-so-familiar and oh-so-easy "y'can't get thar from heah"), and he's given up. woo-hoo! eric
Gentlemen and Ladies The simple solution here is the end user doesn't want unsolicited email. Should one of these direct mailings come to my mail box I will be compelled to support my provide with the right to sue with the invasion of my paid for private account by intrusive and burdensome harassment and subjecting me to provider notices that I am exceeding my my email quota's with to many files. I speak for silent majority of the internet community on this issue, since I use the internet on both ends of the spectrum it is easy to see the entire picture. I am hoping that you the managers of the NAP's and various portions of the backbone will create a uniform policy to not carry these types of services for money. The right to refuse service is your right as A business and supported by current law. Henry R. Linneweh Eric Osborne wrote:
Showed up on a mailing list, reportedly sent by Walt Rines from a Hotmail account. If they set up their own network, that's A-OK with me unless, of course, someone foolishly connects it to the Internet.
Regards, John Levine, postmaster@abuse.net, http://www.abuse.net, Trumansburg NY abuse.net postmaster
--------- Cyber Promotions/Quantum Communications
Press Release
Spam Backbone Formed
... etc ...
Also saw it on news.com (http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,16682,00.html). What caught my eye was this bit at the bottom of the page:
"The only thing that's going to turn us off is either a law or the antispammers finding a way to attack us to the ground," [Sanford] said.
Wallace added that if the network doesn't work, then he will officially throw in the towel.
"If this doesn't work, nothing will," he said. "If it doesn't go, then that's it for me--I'm done."
Cool. All we need to do is blackhole any routes to him for a little while (the oh-so-familiar and oh-so-easy "y'can't get thar from heah"), and he's given up. woo-hoo!
eric
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