Hi, Joe: 1)    "... how the IETF ivory tower residents likes to try and suppress debate, ...  ":   Interesting metaphor. Along this line, I wonder whether those bouncers on the draw bridge realize that technology has advanced to the point that there are other ways to get around the road block, such as taking over the country side to leave the ivory tower in isolation, or parachuting to bypass the draw bridge? Regards, Abe (2022-03-21 12:34) ------------------------------ NANOG Digest, Vol 170, Issue 23 Message: 11 Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2022 05:31:50 -0400 From: Joe Maimon<jmaimon@jmaimon.com> To: John Levine<johnl@iecc.com>,nanog@nanog.org Cc:aychen@avinta.com Subject: Re: Making Use of 240/4 NetBlock Re: 202203151549.AYC Message-ID:<62384606.2030300@jmaimon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed John Levine wrote:

It appears that Abraham Y. Chen<aychen@avinta.com> said:

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C. Recently, we were made aware of the Int-Area activities. Attempts to reach the Group Chairs have not received any responses.

D. I just received an Int-Area Digest Vol 199, Issue 14 requesting IETF to reactivate the IPv4 support.

For people who don't follow the IETF lists, here's a summary of the responses. Mr. Chen thought it was a good idea, everyone else, and I mean everyone, said it's a foolish idea and not worth pursuing.

R's, John

*ahem* Is this is how the IETF ivory tower residents likes to try and suppress debate, by relegating all group think dissenters as white noise nobodies? And if they have succeeded in doing such on their own forums, its more telling about their own process problems than anything else. I sincerely hope I am mistaken in your characterization of the many fine individuals who have repeatedly gone on record in support of maintaining IPv4 responsibly until such time as it is properly obsoleted. While I can understand being considered a nobody, other more notable definitely not nobodies have even on this tired topics' nth thread made themselves heard and some fairly clearly. History will continue to show that the IETF pursued the path of pain for the internet. Joe ------------------------------ -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus