On Mon, Sep 13, 2004 at 03:42:26PM -0700, Gary E. Miller <gem@rellim.com> wrote a message of 25 lines which said:

Not been able to reach my machines in Jamaica. The Kingston Daily Gleaner is back up with text only pages. They report BOTH the primary and secondary submarine cables to Jamaica are severed:

And the name servers are all in Jamaica (IANA lists other name servers but they are in lame delegation) so the TLD disappeared as well. ~ % check_soa jm There is no name server running on ns.jm There was no response from ns.utechjamaica.edu.jm There was no response from ns.utech.edu.jm There was no response from ns.cast.edu.jm RFC 2182, 3.1 : Secondary servers must be placed at both topologically and geographically dispersed locations on the Internet, to minimise the likelihood of a single failure disabling all of them. And it is quite easy to get a remote secondary for a TLD (RIPE-NCC, ISC, EP, AFNIC, etc). Too bad it was not done.

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Can someone shed some light for me on the ARIN meetings? I guess I want to know if it worth attending?

wanna watch sausage being made? but the arin sausage factory has become far less scary than apnic's or ripe's, by a long shot.

In either case, the ARIN process is generally pretty open. They have always been receptive to member input and, although it does have a slight resemblance to the legislative process, it's a lot closer to Pavetti Meats (local sausage maker in the town I grew up in) than to Oscar Mayer.

I have always found the meet interesting and worth attending, but I'll take the aroma of good Italian sausage if I have to make a choice. :-)

indeed. my intent was to characterize the process and to compliment it. arin has come a loooong way; much credit to ray plzak. process at the intersection of policy and technology is difficult. openness is important, but so is prudent engineering. arin has found a far better balance than some other notable rirs. randy