Request for comments
Good people of NANOG, Please find here <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eZZeqbDaTj6nSJJDdK0iu5Xm9Z_691rR/view?usp=sharing> a snapshot of two datasets concerning access technologies in the metro area. The bar chart on the right summarizes data I collected last year from *NOGs; the bar chart on the left summarizes data received last year from Tier 1 and/or regional operators (incumbents). The y-axis shows cumulative responses for an option; the x-axis shows (hopefully unambiguous) monikers for the access technologies. Would anyone care to comment on how well this matches his/her perception of the current state of deployments? Cheers, Etienne -- Ing. Etienne-Victor Depasquale Assistant Lecturer Department of Communications & Computer Engineering Faculty of Information & Communication Technology University of Malta Web. https://www.um.edu.mt/profile/etiennedepasquale
On Wed Mar 01, 2023 at 09:24:02AM +0100, Etienne-Victor Depasquale via NANOG wrote:
Would anyone care to comment on how well this matches his/her perception of the current state of deployments?
The UK has an annual survey by the regulator https://www.ofcom.org.uk/research-and-data/multi-sector-research/infrastruct... There are some UK specific terms due to marketing (such as FTTC = fibre to the cabinet which uses VDSL2 to the home) For your graphs - We have a large now legacy VDSL2 population probably around 80%, little G.FAST as that was a dead end while trying to avoid fibre. A fair bit of ADSL2+ in usually rural areas and outliers not covered by FTTC, estimate 10% though this is being rapidly targeted by FTTH builders. Various DOCSIS is just called cable, I can't differentiate the generations installed. There is one operator with around 20% market share. It's dead tech now except for refresh while they try and keep competitors at bay until they can move to fibre themselves. It's fast enough for now but all marketing is for gigabit fibre though most do not take 1Gb/s service. FWA and 4/5G are relatively small though 4G has had some success as a stop gap in rural. The VDSL2 and ADSL2+ are most rapidly being replaced with the only growing tech, fibre, which was around 10%. This is the only tech of interest, anyone building something else is doomed. Most of the fibre is GPON, a little XG, and some AE (which I've also built a little of). The incumbent is driving the GPON, there are many altnets building but just doing the same as they fight for customers while they overbuild each other, it's starting to get a bit messy with resulting M&A. brandon
I've updated the graphic <https://drive.google.com/open?id=1eZZeqbDaTj6nSJJDdK0iu5Xm9Z_691rR&authuser=etienne.depasquale%40um.edu.mt&usp=drive_fs> with one other data point and increased the graphic's size (following feedback). In particular, I'd like to understand why there are so many operators who consider Active Ethernet (p2p) to be their largest and/or fastest growing access technology. Would anyone care to give an opinion / interpretation / perspective / other ? Cheers, Etienne On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 9:24 AM Etienne-Victor Depasquale <edepa@ieee.org> wrote:
Good people of NANOG,
Please find here <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eZZeqbDaTj6nSJJDdK0iu5Xm9Z_691rR/view?usp=sharing> a snapshot of two datasets concerning access technologies in the metro area.
The bar chart on the right summarizes data I collected last year from *NOGs; the bar chart on the left summarizes data received last year from Tier 1 and/or regional operators (incumbents). The y-axis shows cumulative responses for an option; the x-axis shows (hopefully unambiguous) monikers for the access technologies.
Would anyone care to comment on how well this matches his/her perception of the current state of deployments?
Cheers,
Etienne
-- Ing. Etienne-Victor Depasquale Assistant Lecturer Department of Communications & Computer Engineering Faculty of Information & Communication Technology University of Malta Web. https://www.um.edu.mt/profile/etiennedepasquale
-- Ing. Etienne-Victor Depasquale Assistant Lecturer Department of Communications & Computer Engineering Faculty of Information & Communication Technology University of Malta Web. https://www.um.edu.mt/profile/etiennedepasquale
The picture changes significantly when an operator's choice is weighted by his current subscriber base. Evidently, incumbents have lots of copper media, while smaller operators (more agile?) are laying fibre and mostly growing GPON on it. Rebuttals are welcome ! Unweighted data <https://drive.google.com/open?id=1eZZeqbDaTj6nSJJDdK0iu5Xm9Z_691rR&authuser=etienne.depasquale%40um.edu.mt&usp=drive_fs> Weighted data <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fMLiEGbvaD4pqCmQM75HWYoR37XaiHFQ/view?usp=sharing> (weighted by number of subscribers) Cheers, Etienne On Fri, Mar 3, 2023 at 5:32 PM Etienne-Victor Depasquale <edepa@ieee.org> wrote:
I've updated the graphic <https://drive.google.com/open?id=1eZZeqbDaTj6nSJJDdK0iu5Xm9Z_691rR&authuser=etienne.depasquale%40um.edu.mt&usp=drive_fs> with one other data point and increased the graphic's size (following feedback).
In particular, I'd like to understand why there are so many operators who consider Active Ethernet (p2p) to be their largest and/or fastest growing access technology.
Would anyone care to give an opinion / interpretation / perspective / other ?
Cheers,
Etienne
On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 9:24 AM Etienne-Victor Depasquale <edepa@ieee.org> wrote:
Good people of NANOG,
Please find here <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eZZeqbDaTj6nSJJDdK0iu5Xm9Z_691rR/view?usp=sharing> a snapshot of two datasets concerning access technologies in the metro area.
The bar chart on the right summarizes data I collected last year from *NOGs; the bar chart on the left summarizes data received last year from Tier 1 and/or regional operators (incumbents). The y-axis shows cumulative responses for an option; the x-axis shows (hopefully unambiguous) monikers for the access technologies.
Would anyone care to comment on how well this matches his/her perception of the current state of deployments?
Cheers,
Etienne
-- Ing. Etienne-Victor Depasquale Assistant Lecturer Department of Communications & Computer Engineering Faculty of Information & Communication Technology University of Malta Web. https://www.um.edu.mt/profile/etiennedepasquale
-- Ing. Etienne-Victor Depasquale Assistant Lecturer Department of Communications & Computer Engineering Faculty of Information & Communication Technology University of Malta Web. https://www.um.edu.mt/profile/etiennedepasquale
-- Ing. Etienne-Victor Depasquale Assistant Lecturer Department of Communications & Computer Engineering Faculty of Information & Communication Technology University of Malta Web. https://www.um.edu.mt/profile/etiennedepasquale
Quick (and critical) correction: bar charts on the ***left*** are from *NOGs; bar charts on the ***right*** are from commissioned market research. Cheers, Etienne On Tue, Mar 7, 2023 at 2:06 PM Etienne-Victor Depasquale <edepa@ieee.org> wrote:
The picture changes significantly when an operator's choice is weighted by his current subscriber base. Evidently, incumbents have lots of copper media, while smaller operators (more agile?) are laying fibre and mostly growing GPON on it.
Rebuttals are welcome !
Unweighted data <https://drive.google.com/open?id=1eZZeqbDaTj6nSJJDdK0iu5Xm9Z_691rR&authuser=etienne.depasquale%40um.edu.mt&usp=drive_fs>
Weighted data <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fMLiEGbvaD4pqCmQM75HWYoR37XaiHFQ/view?usp=sharing> (weighted by number of subscribers)
Cheers,
Etienne
On Fri, Mar 3, 2023 at 5:32 PM Etienne-Victor Depasquale <edepa@ieee.org> wrote:
I've updated the graphic <https://drive.google.com/open?id=1eZZeqbDaTj6nSJJDdK0iu5Xm9Z_691rR&authuser=etienne.depasquale%40um.edu.mt&usp=drive_fs> with one other data point and increased the graphic's size (following feedback).
In particular, I'd like to understand why there are so many operators who consider Active Ethernet (p2p) to be their largest and/or fastest growing access technology.
Would anyone care to give an opinion / interpretation / perspective / other ?
Cheers,
Etienne
On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 9:24 AM Etienne-Victor Depasquale <edepa@ieee.org> wrote:
Good people of NANOG,
Please find here <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eZZeqbDaTj6nSJJDdK0iu5Xm9Z_691rR/view?usp=sharing> a snapshot of two datasets concerning access technologies in the metro area.
The bar chart on the right summarizes data I collected last year from *NOGs; the bar chart on the left summarizes data received last year from Tier 1 and/or regional operators (incumbents). The y-axis shows cumulative responses for an option; the x-axis shows (hopefully unambiguous) monikers for the access technologies.
Would anyone care to comment on how well this matches his/her perception of the current state of deployments?
Cheers,
Etienne
-- Ing. Etienne-Victor Depasquale Assistant Lecturer Department of Communications & Computer Engineering Faculty of Information & Communication Technology University of Malta Web. https://www.um.edu.mt/profile/etiennedepasquale
-- Ing. Etienne-Victor Depasquale Assistant Lecturer Department of Communications & Computer Engineering Faculty of Information & Communication Technology University of Malta Web. https://www.um.edu.mt/profile/etiennedepasquale
-- Ing. Etienne-Victor Depasquale Assistant Lecturer Department of Communications & Computer Engineering Faculty of Information & Communication Technology University of Malta Web. https://www.um.edu.mt/profile/etiennedepasquale
-- Ing. Etienne-Victor Depasquale Assistant Lecturer Department of Communications & Computer Engineering Faculty of Information & Communication Technology University of Malta Web. https://www.um.edu.mt/profile/etiennedepasquale
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Etienne-Victor Depasquale