RE: 69/8 problem -- Would CNN care?
Hi Avleen, When you start crying to the list because your new IP allocation is blocked, I'll try to be the first to tell you that "The solution here is *VERY* simple". Like it or not, the 69/8 problem *IS* operational content. If message threads containing operational content offend or disturb you in some way, I recommend that you tune in next week, when I'm sure that there will be plenty of off-topic emails for you to read. -Lee -----Original Message----- From: Avleen Vig [mailto:work@silverwraith.com] Sent: March 12, 2003 4:06 AM To: Lee Watterworth Cc: North American Noise and Off-topic Gripes Subject: Re: 69/8 problem -- Would CNN care? On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 02:06:49PM -0500, Lee Watterworth wrote:
Over the last few years CNN has covered many internet tech articles -- various worms, attacks and outages.
Think they would care to do a story on this problem?
No offense Lee, but OH MY GOD, can we *PLEASE* drop this now? If 69/8 is unreachable by some people, it's REALLY NOT THAT IMPORTANT. If 10% of the internet cannot reach 69/8, then it's the problem of that 10%. I'm sure when people cannot reach it they'll eventually figure it out on their own if they don't read nanog. I really really fail to see why people are making such a big deal out of this. Yes, I agree that's it's an issue and it neds to be discussed, but that happened and was dealt with several posts ago. The solution here is *VERY* simple. If you have address space in 69/8, use it as you want to. If someone can't reach you, that's their problem. If you want to help them fix it, fine. If not, don't. But after the first few emails to NANOG, it's between you and them. Period. -- Avleen Vig "Say no to cheese-eating surrender-monkeys" Systems Admin "Fast, Good, Cheap. Pick any two." www.silverwraith.com "Move BSD. For great justice!"
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From: Avleen Vig
No offense Lee, but OH MY GOD, can we *PLEASE* drop this now? If 69/8 is unreachable by some people, it's REALLY NOT THAT IMPORTANT.
If 10% of the internet cannot reach 69/8, then it's the problem of that 10%. I'm sure when people cannot reach it they'll eventually figure it out on their own if they don't read nanog.
Avleen, Stop for a minute and realize that 69/8 isn't just given to web-hosters. If that were the case, I'd agree with you. 69/8 is being given out to ISPs that have to feed companies and end users. This has an impact on the ISPs in question, as they cannot provide as "good" a service as their competitor because various networks are dropping their packets to the floor. Do I complain? Do I add my own speach to this never ending thread? Yes. I do. I need solutions to what isn't just a technical problem, but a business problem. If it doesn't get fixed, I will lose money. I personally am greatful for all the suggestions, work, and communication existing on the list and off-list concerning this problem. -Jack
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