We have attempted in the past tried to deal with Arin on this issue and they as usual deny anything that could potentially be useful, in thwarting these attacks. There have been some people with good idea's, however when you have a 1 gig bi-directional pipe and you have 2Gb/s incoming these idea's then only look good on paper with nice graphic's to match. I think all the oc48 shelves need to be checked and the passwords changed..... Henry R. Linneweh