-----Original Message----- From: Owen DeLong <owen@DeLong.SJ.CA.US> To: nanog@merit.edu <nanog@merit.edu>; salo@networkcs.com <salo@networkcs.com> Date: Thursday, September 03, 1998 11:43 AM Subject: Re: Director Database Marketing (Herndon VA US) (http://www.saic.com/career/jobs/c5

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And, what makes you think that NSI doesn't have intellectual property rights to the whois database. Again, please frame your answer in the context of the applicable Federal law and regulations, probably the FARs and the contract or cooperative agreement between NSI and the NSF.

Under both common law and various federal regulations, NSI has posession of that data because of a federal contract supported and (previously) paid for by taxpayers.

Keep in mind that some of that data finds its way to the legacy Root Name Server Cluster (RSC) that doubles as the .COM TLD Name Server Cluster. At the end of this month, the U.S. Government will no longer have control of this RSC. NSI will have control by virtue of the fact that they control the server that the others pull BOTH the root zone from as well as the COM zone (plus a few others including IN-ADDR.ARPA). Hopefully, NSI will work with the other RSC owner/operators to coordinate not only the legacy RSC but also the other numerous RSCs in operation around the world. The TLDs that are already in 99% of the other RSCs can now be easily added to the legacy RSC next month. The diverse group of organizations shown below can vote on which TLDs to support and publish their list, just like other RSCs. In my opinion, I think that the IETF should encourage people to evolve that legacy RSC away from being an RSC. It can remain as the .COM TLD Cluster. There is one sticky point in that which is that some of the servers are U.S. Government property. It may not be prudent for NSI to be running relying on those servers to support their .COM enterprise. I think there are federal laws against using government computers for private business. 1. A - Network Solutions, Inc. (A) 2. B - University of Southern California (ISI2) 3. C - Performance Systems International Inc. (C-NYSER) 4. D - University of Maryland (UMD-TERP) 5. E - NASA Ames Research Center (NS-NASA) 6. F - Internet Software Consortium (ISC) 7. G - DOD Network Information Center (DIIS-NS) 8. H - Army Research Laboratory (B) 9. I - [No name] (NORDU) (Sweden) 10. J - Network Solutions, Inc. (J) 11. K - European Regional Internet Registry/RIPE NCC (K) 12. L - University of Southern California (L) 13. M - WIDE Project (M) (JAPAN)

Network Solutions, Inc. (A) 505 Huntmar Park Drive Herndon, VA 22070

Hostname: A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET Address: 198.41.0.4 System: SUN running SUNOS

Host Administrator: Kosters, Mark A. (MAK21) markk@NETSOL.COM (703) 925-6874 (FAX) (703) 742-5427

Record last updated on 31-Aug-95. Database last updated on 19-Aug-98 04:28:03 EDT.

University of Southern California (ISI2) Information Sciences Institute 4676 Admiralty Way Marina del Rey, CA 90292

Hostname: B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET Address: 128.9.0.107 System: ? running ?

Host Administrator: Koda, Jim (JK7) koda@ISI.EDU 310) 822-1511

Record last updated on 12-Aug-95. Database last updated on 19-Aug-98 04:28:03 EDT.

Performance Systems International Inc. (C-NYSER)

Hostname: C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET Address: 192.33.4.12 System: SUN running UNIX

Coordinator: Administration, PSINet Domain (PDA4) psinet-domain-admin@PSI.COM (703) 904-4100 (FAX) 610-825-8616

domain server

Record last updated on 17-Apr-96. Database last updated on 19-Aug-98 04:28:03 EDT.

University of Maryland (UMD-TERP) Computer Science Center College Park, MD 20742

Hostname: D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET Address: 128.8.10.90 System: MICROVAX-II running UNIX

Coordinator: Sneeringer, Gerry (GS307) sneeri@NI.UMD.EDU (301) 405-2996

domain server

Record last updated on 12-Aug-95. Database last updated on 19-Aug-98 04:28:03 EDT.

NASA Ames Research Center (NS-NASA) Mail Stop 233-8 Moffett Field, CA 94035-1000 USA

Hostname: E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET Address: 192.203.230.10 System: SUN running SUNOS

Coordinator: Operations, Nsi Network (NNO2) noc@NSIPO.NASA.GOV (800) 424-9920 (415) 604-0063 (FAX) (415) 604-0063

domain server

Record last updated on 07-Nov-97. Database last updated on 19-Aug-98 04:28:03 EDT.

Internet Software Consortium (ISC)

Hostname: F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET Address: 192.5.5.241 System: DEC ALPHA running BIND 4.9.5

Host Administrator: Vixie, Paul (PV15) paul@VIX.COM +1.650.779.7001 (FAX) +1.650.779.7055

Domain Server

Record last updated on 09-Oct-96. Database last updated on 19-Aug-98 04:28:03 EDT.

DOD Network Information Center (DIIS-NS) MS CV-50 7990 Boeing Court Vienna, Va 22183-7000

Hostname: G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET Address: 192.112.36.4 System: SUN running UNIX

Coordinator: McCollum, Robert W (RM584) bobm@NIC.MIL (703) 821-6214 (FAX) (703) 821-6161

Root Domain Server

Record last updated on 21-Apr-97. Database last updated on 19-Aug-98 04:28:03 EDT.

Army Research Laboratory (B) Aberdeen Proving Ground, MD 21005-5066

Hostname: H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET Address: 128.63.2.53 System: SUN running UNIX

Host Administrator: Fielding, James L. (JLF) jamesf@ARL.MIL (410)278-6829 (410)278-6642 (FAX) (410)278-5077

Record last updated on 17-Aug-95. Database last updated on 19-Aug-98 04:28:03 EDT.

[No name] (NORDU)

Hostname: I.ROOT-SERVERS.NET Address: 192.36.148.17 System: SUN-4/60 running UNIX

Coordinator: Liman, Lars-Johan (LL846) LIMAN@SUNET.SE +46 8 790 65 60 (FAX) +46 8 24 11 79

Record last updated on 09-Jan-97. Database last updated on 19-Aug-98 04:28:03 EDT.

Network Solutions, Inc. (J) 505 Huntmar Park Drive Herndon, VA 22070

Hostname: J.ROOT-SERVERS.NET Address: 198.41.0.10 System: ? running ?

Host Administrator: Kosters, Mark A. (MAK21) markk@NETSOL.COM (703) 925-6874 (FAX) (703) 742-5427

Record last updated on 17-Jan-97. Database last updated on 19-Aug-98 04:28:03 EDT.

European Regional Internet Registry/RIPE NCC (K)

Hostname: K.ROOT-SERVERS.NET Address: 193.0.14.129 System: ? running ?

Host Administrator: RIPE NCC (RIPE-NCC) ops@RIPE.NET http://www.ripe.net Fax- ïvxt

University of Southern California (L) Information Sciences Institute 4676 Admiralty Way Marina del Rey, CA 90292

Hostname: L.ROOT-SERVERS.NET Address: 198.32.64.12 System: ? running ?

Host Administrator: Manning, Bill (WM110) bmanning@ISI.EDU 310-322-8102

WIDE Project (M) 5322 Endo Fujisawa 252 JAPAN

Hostname: M.ROOT-SERVERS.NET Address: 202.12.27.33 System: ? running ?

Host Administrator: Kato, Akira (AK3) kato@WIDE.SFC.KEIO.AC.JP 81 466 49 1100

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