RE: Lawsuit threat against RBL users
At 09:46 AM 11/19/98 -0500, you wrote:
That's a pretty shortsighted view, Sheryl. I suspect you haven't been on the receiving end of some idtiot buying a leased line/virtual web presence from you and then spamming from an AOL/PSI/earhlink/yadda yadda account. It isn't pleasant. Folks aren't stupid. They ignore the fact that the tool used to spam was a throwaway account and go right for the jugular (you). It's better to have a zero tolerance policy and not have to deal with the silliness in the first place.
You are correct, we have been lucky so far and this has not been an issue. If it becomes an issue, we may have to make changes to our AUP. However, what I don't like is the idea that we might have to make that change not based on what we think is acceptable use, but based on what some self appointed group has decided it should be. The consequences of not going along being that we get blackholed. Sheryl Chapin Senior Network Engineer CommTel Internet 207.377.3508 Winthrop, Maine schapin@ctel.net
On Thu, 19 Nov 1998, Sheryl Chapin wrote:
However, what I don't like is the idea that we might have to make that change not based on what we think is acceptable use, but based on what some self appointed group has decided it should be. The consequences of not going along being that we get blackholed.
It's simply a matter of your peers saying that if you're the kind of business that allows that, then we don't want to do business with you (hence, they refuse to talk to you anymore). Nobody's telling you how to run your business. What the RBL-subscribers are saying is "to deal with us, there is a code of conduct, such as, x y and z. Here are the technical reasons why these are important to us." and if you want to deal with them, you abide by the "rules", otherwise, you find other people to send mail to. D ====================================================================== Derek J. Balling | "Bill Gates is a monocle and a white dredd@megacity.org | fluffy cat from being a villain in the http://www.megacity.org/ | next Bond film." - Dennis Miller ======================================================================
On Thu, Nov 19, 1998 at 11:51:51AM -0500, Sheryl Chapin wrote:
However, what I don't like is the idea that we might have to make that change not based on what we think is acceptable use, but based on what some self appointed group has decided it should be. The consequences of not going along being that we get blackholed.
Sheryl: On the one hand I agree with points that you've made. On the other hand, the other ISP's own their equipment and pay for their bandwidth and have a right to block other providers if they so choose. Blocking (hopefully) is not a decision that most ISP's take lightly. -- Steve Sobol [sjsobol@nacs.net] Part-time Support Droid [support@nacs.net] NACS Spaminator [abuse@nacs.net] Spotted on a bumper sticker: "Possum. The other white meat."
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